Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 01 September 2020
01 Sep 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Logan Review (Technology Sector)
As is demonstrated in other countries, the tech visa has the potential to transform the talent pool that is available and ensure that we can grow. I will certainly make that case to the UK Government, although probably without any great optimism that it will lead to change, given that we have long stated that the current UK Government’s immigration proposals are wrong for Scotland and threaten to cause serious and lasting harm to the tech industry and several other important sectors. It is not just me making that point—academic and business representatives make that point, too. Our demographic and economic needs are not the same as those of the rest of the UK, and a one-size-fits-all approach is not appropriate.
We will consider how we can use elements of that recommendation to ensure that we are attracting talent. However, without the immigration levers, it is a lot more difficult.
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That concludes questions on the statement.