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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 25 August 2020

25 Aug 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Regan, Ash SNP Edinburgh Eastern Watch on SPTV

I support amendments 9, 10 and 11, and I am grateful to Rhoda Grant for the constructive engagement that we have had on the subject. Those amendments make technical changes to the provisions that she inserted at stage 2.

Where the court is considering making an order that requires two or more persons to co-operate, amendment 10 will require the court to consider

“whether it is, or would be, appropriate”

to require co-operation. That is wider than sections 11(7D) and (7E) of the 1995 act, and new section 11ZA(3) of that act, which was added at stage 2 of the bill. It meets one of the aims of the bill, which is to

“further protect victims of domestic abuse”,

including children.

Turning to amendment 26 in the name of Liam McArthur, I reassure members that my view is that both parents should be fully involved in a child’s upbringing, as long as that is in the best interests of the child concerned. Currently, parents can ask the court for residence on an equal basis, and a decision will be made in which the welfare of the child is paramount, taking into consideration the views of the child, and with full consideration being given to arguments for and against shared parenting in the particular circumstances of the case.

Amendment 26 proposes residence on an equal basis where requested as the starting point for the court to work from. In my view, that cuts across the approach of the 1995 act, which encourages the court to arrive at a solution that best promotes the welfare of each child, according to their individual circumstances.

The amendment refers only to parents. Although most cases of this nature are between parents, they do not have to be; for example, grandparents may apply for an order. Amendment 26 does not take account of the full range of circumstances that exist in these types of cases. It does not address the stage in the proceedings at which any request must be made, whether the parent requires to be a party to the proceedings or whether it might be open to parents to make repeated requests. In the absence of any attempt to govern the procedure by which such requests might be made, there is a considerable risk of delay in court proceedings with issues arising at a late stage.

A section 11 case might be about contact or about administration of a child’s property and not about residence. Therefore, it might not be appropriate for the court to consider residence in every case, as the court might not have the information necessary to allow it to decide on such questions. The courts already apply a general principle that it will be normally beneficial for children to have an on-going relationship with both parents. The bill strengthens this position by requiring the court to consider in every case the effect of an order on the involvement of the child’s parents in bringing the child up.

I do not consider that amendment 26 is desirable. It cuts across the general principle of section 11 of the 1995 act that the welfare of the child is the paramount consideration. Given those reasons, I ask Liam McArthur not to move amendment 26.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is stage 3 proceedings on the Children (Scotland) Bill. Members should have before them the bill as amended at stage 2, the marshal...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 1 is on the voice of the child. Amendment 8, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 35, 12 to 16, 31 and 48.
The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Denham) SNP
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
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Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
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Fulton MacGregor (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) SNP
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John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
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Ash Denham SNP
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The Presiding Officer NPA
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Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Amendment 9 is a technical amendment, which would remove a definition that is no longer required in the bill. Amendment 10 would amend new section 11ZA(3)(e...
Liam McArthur LD
Amendment 26 seeks to make equally shared parenting the starting basis for custody orders, but it would not prevent courts from then deciding on the most app...
John Finnie Green
The member will be aware of the position that was adopted in relation to other matters in which it would be unhelpful to have a list. Is what he seeks to do ...
Liam McArthur LD
John Finnie is right to point to the evidence that we took and some of the considerations that we weighed up during stages 1 and 2. As I said, given how rar...
Liam Kerr Con
I am happy to vote for all the amendments in the group, with the exception of Liam McArthur’s amendment 26. Again, I understand the motivation behind the am...
James Kelly Lab
I support Rhoda Grant’s sensible amendments, which would bring more consistency to the bill as amended at stage 2. I, too, oppose Liam McArthur’s amendment 2...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
I do not support amendment 26, because I consider that it could have adverse consequences for child safety. In an ideal world, it is preferable for a child ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
I want to express my sympathy for Liam McArthur’s amendment 26. Over the years, I have had many constituents and, in fact, others from outwith my constituenc...
Ash Denham SNP
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Rhoda Grant Lab
Members will all have dealt with cases in which contact has been used to perpetrate abuse, with disastrous consequences for the abused partner and their chil...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 3 is on the disclosure of information. Amendment 36, in the name of Liam McArthur, is grouped with amendment 46.
Liam McArthur LD
Amendment 36 and my more substantive amendment 46 respond to concerns that were raised with the committee at stage 1 that, at present, intimate and highly se...
Liam Kerr Con
We will vote against both amendments in the group. Amendment 36 is a function of amendment 46, so I will deal with the latter in depth. Our vote against amen...
Ash Denham SNP
I support amendments 36 and 46. I am grateful to Liam McArthur for the constructive engagement that we have had on the subject, and I am pleased that a conse...
Liam McArthur LD
I thank the minister for her support and her explanation of the basis for it. I thank Liam Kerr for his comments and for engaging in debate on my amendments....
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment 36 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. As this is the first division of the afternoon, I will suspend proceedings and we will have a short technical break, not only to su...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Colleagues, we are going to resume proceedings. We are on group 3, on disclosure of information, and Liam McArthur has moved amendment 36. Members indicated...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division is: For 86, Against 30, Abstentions 1. Amendment 36 agreed to.