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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 20 May 2020

20 May 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Coronavirus (Scotland) (No 2) Bill: Stage 3

Amendment 2 recognises that trade unions have played a vital role in helping to keep people working, services running and citizens safe throughout the crisis. They can carry out that role only if they can get access to workplaces to offer advice and support to members and work with employers.

In their day-to-day role, trade unions work very closely, and without rancour, with most employers, resolving workplace issues at source. In many areas of the economy and society, employers sadly do not allow trade unions to access workplaces so that they can speak to their members. Many of us will have been contacted by staff members across various sectors who are worried about the safety of their workplace. The first thing that all those people will say in their conversations with us is, “Please do not give my name,” because there is, too often, a climate of fear within the workplace. Being represented and recognised by a union takes away some of that fear and gives workers a voice in their places of work.

Amendment 2 seeks to give unions right of access so that they can speak to employees of companies who are contracted to do work that is paid for by the public purse—it is nothing more than the basic right to go into workplaces and speak to people. I have to tell you that this is not the revolution—that can wait for another day. It is simply the basic right for unions to go into workplaces and speak to people about their welfare, wellbeing and employment. Members should remember that the work is being paid for by the public purse, with taxpayers’ money.

The Scottish Labour Party seeks to use public procurement policy to deliver on the fair work agenda. Amendment 2 is supported by the Scottish Trades Union Congress, the GMB, Unite the union, Unison and all the major trade unions. I hope that members will support that basic right.

Amendment 3 seeks to ensure that employees of companies that are contracted to do work that is paid for by the public purse to deliver goods or services during the Covid-19 crisis are paid at least the real living wage. The amendment is straightforward and it will lock in a key fair work principle. I previously tried to implement that change when the Parliament debated the Procurement Reform (Scotland) Bill, but at the time, the lead minister, who is now the First Minister, rejected it, saying that that was because of European Union procurement law. We are now told that we can implement that change and that the Government claims to be doing that in the social care sector. If it can be done in social care, it can also be done in other areas of the economy. However, I have to question whether it is, indeed, being done in the social care sector, because if anyone looks at vacancies for cleaners, carers, drivers and caretakers on the websites of many companies that are delivering public contracts funded by the taxpayer, they will see that many of those jobs are advertised at rates of pay that are below the living wage.

The guidance that the cabinet secretary referred to at stage 2 is being ignored—and regularly. That is why the unions support my amendment. Even though they are part of the fair work agreement with the Scottish Government, they are fully behind the measure. I hope that the Parliament will support amendment 3 at decision time.

I move amendment 2.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is stage 3 proceedings on the Coronavirus (Scotland) (No 2) Bill. In dealing with the amendments, members should have the bill as ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 1 is on the advancement of equality and non-discrimination. Amendment 1, in the name of the cabinet secretary, is the only amendment in the group. Mich...
The Cabinet Secretary for the Constitution, Europe and External Affairs (Michael Russell) SNP
I will move the amendment, but I will not speak to it. I—
The Presiding Officer NPA
That is not a very good note to start on. Oh—I am sorry, cabinet secretary; you were asking Jenny Gilruth to speak to the amendment.
Michael Russell SNP
I hope to become clearer as the afternoon wears on. The point that I was making is that Jenny Gilruth will speak to the amendment.
The Presiding Officer NPA
My apologies for misunderstanding you.
The Minister for Europe and International Development (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
For clarification, I am not Mike Russell. I thank Mark Griffin for raising an important issue in the stage 2 deliberations yesterday. The Government agrees ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 2 is on conditions on support to business. Amendment 2, in the name of Neil Findlay, is grouped with amendments 3, 93 and 94.
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Amendment 2 recognises that trade unions have played a vital role in helping to keep people working, services running and citizens safe throughout the crisis...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
I draw members’ attention to the register of members’ interests, which shows that I am a member of the Poverty Alliance and an associate member of the Nation...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will the member give way?
Patrick Harvie Green
I will in a moment. We should be shutting down that legal tax avoidance. In the meantime, we should certainly be saying that there is no coronavirus bailout ...
Neil Findlay Lab
I agree with everything that Patrick Harvie has said. I just find it depressing that we could have introduced the measure in 2014, when I lodged a similar am...
Patrick Harvie Green
I would like to think that what is happening in these extraordinary times is going to be the catalyst for a great deal of change. All economic activity that ...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I was going to start my comments by saying that I agree with Patrick Harvie, but he rather spoiled it with the nonsense that he came out with at the end of h...
Patrick Harvie Green
Will the member take an intervention?
Murdo Fraser Con
I will.
Patrick Harvie Green
I am grateful to Murdo Fraser for giving way. I was so excited by making wider points that I knew would annoy him at the end of my speech that I forgot to me...
Murdo Fraser Con
Mr Harvie is trying his best to fall out with us. I would have thought that he would try to get our support for his amendments rather than thrust us away. He...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Murdo Fraser Con
I am sorry, but I will not take an intervention. The minister or Mr Harvie can reply when they are winding up. I just do not see how that is achievable from...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
Labour will support amendments 93 and 94, in the name of Patrick Harvie. It is entirely reasonable to take that approach. I suggest that the public will ask ...
Michael Russell SNP
I will address all the amendments in the group, but I will start by repeating something that the First Minister said at First Minister’s question time, which...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The cabinet secretary is making me blush.
Michael Russell SNP
I do not want to do that; if it makes anyone blush, I am about to make Mr Tomkins blush, too. That may be a harder and less desirable task. I simply want to...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Michael Russell SNP
No, I will not take an intervention. Interruption. The other reason why I will not take an intervention is that everything that Mr Findlay has said this afte...
Neil Findlay Lab
I see that the cabinet secretary has lost none of his charm, because when he—Laughter. Did Mr Russell say “buffoon”? If he wants to say something, he should ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Order, please.
Neil Findlay Lab
The cabinet secretary resorts to—