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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 03 June 2020

03 Jun 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill

I echo the words of the convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee and express my solidarity with all those who are protesting against the violence in the US—indeed with people who are joining in across the world. I think that many people are standing in solidarity with the protesters today.

I thank the convener, committee members and clerks and all the witnesses, who assisted us greatly in our deliberations on the bill. We had some interesting meetings.

By its nature, the bill is pretty dry, bureaucratic and technical. However, it is important to our democracy. In a participative, representative democracy, elections must be free and fair, and must be seen to be so. Confidence in the system’s integrity is fundamental to its success. The bill clarifies the role of the Electoral Commission and will rebrand the Local Government Boundary Commission for Scotland as boundaries Scotland. I am sure that that will be expensive, as all these things are, and I am sure that it will be money very well spent.

Our democracy has to be constantly under review to reflect changes in society and culture, and some of the provisions in the bill do that. It seeks to increase participation in our democracy, and I think that we all look forward to seeing the positive results of the initiatives to assist disabled citizens in accessing their ballot and visually impaired voters in voting independently and in secret. It is extremely important that people can exercise their right to vote, and that all barriers to that are removed. That should be an on-going task; I hope that it will be a rolling programme of work, and that the minister will ensure that officials engage with the RNIB and others, as they put forward very practical suggestions. It is disappointing that Colin Smyth’s amendment was not agreed to.

We support the provision of five-year parliamentary session lengths. Adam Tomkins mentioned that support for that is by no means unanimous—indeed, it was not unanimous in my party either. People have views on it one way or the other, and that is no bad thing. However, the majority supported the five-year session lengths.

We also support the possibility of having two or five-member electoral wards in exceptional circumstances, as Adam Tomkins said.

As the bill has come through each stage, it has not addressed the effect of list order, which the committee took evidence on. Many people feel that certain candidates are disadvantaged because of the in-built advantage for candidates who are higher on the ballot paper. During this process, a commitment was made that some serious work would be done on that, and I hope that, in summing up, the minister will confirm that the Government will undertake in-depth research, because the previous research was pretty thin. My personal view is that full randomisation would be the best option.

Willie Rennie mentioned issues to do with paid advertising in elections, which is not covered in the bill. However, he made a very valid point. We have seen the impact of paid advertising in other countries and our own, and it is always good to know who is behind an advert.

We had a number of discussions on electronic voting, and people were open minded about it. However, security was the key issue.

We all have a vested interest in the Scottish election in 2021, some of us for some reasons, and some for others—I am looking at Richard Lyle, because he and I have a reason to be interested in the 2021 election.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-21891, in the name of Graeme Dey, on the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill. I call Graeme Dey to speak to ...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
I thank everyone who has engaged with the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill throughout its parliamentary passage. Many constructive contributions from all par...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I very much agree with those points. The Electoral Commission has told us that it is really keen that the legislation is in place six months before it is nee...
Graeme Dey SNP
That is certainly the intention. Although we could not support Colin Smyth’s amendment earlier, I acknowledge how well intentioned it was. I am pleased that...
James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I understand that the priority of the Government and everyone else is tackling issues around the pandemic. However, bearing in mind that the Electoral Commis...
Graeme Dey SNP
The work that is going on now will inform any decisions that require to be made further down the line by the Parliament. However, to give some assurance on M...
Adam Tomkins (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I start with the important points that Sarah Boyack and James Kelly made to the minister. It is important that we all understand that, today, the Electoral C...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I too thank the clerks and all those who have given evidence to enable us to get a bill that, although it is not the longest, has important points that need ...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I will keep my comments on the bill relatively brief. However, as others have done, I thank the clerks and all those who gave evidence throughout the passage...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I thank the clerks, the committee, the officials and witnesses as well as the advisers for their work on the bill. The minister is right in what he has said ...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in the stage 3 debate as the passage of the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill nears its end. I, too, thank the bill team and the clerks ...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am delighted to participate in the stage 3 debate on the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill. The proposals in the bill make some sensible changes to the Scot...
James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I rise to speak in favour of the bill, which Scottish Labour will support at decision time. As Mark Ruskell said, the bill is largely technical, but there a...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I do not want to sound too party political, but we should bear it in mind that, at the time, the United Kingdom Government had responsibility for elections i...
James Kelly Lab
I do not think that that was a helpful intervention, to be honest. I will mention some of the other aspects of the bill. It is important that the provisions...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
As the convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee, I have worked with colleagues over months on the shared goal of strengthening...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the closing speeches. 16:33
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I echo the words of the convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee and express my solidarity with all those who are protesting a...
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
We’ll no be here.
Neil Findlay Lab
Exactly. It is very important for Mr Lyle and me that that election happens on time. Some people might not want it to, but I hope that, in summing up, the mi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much, Mr Findlay. I must be feeling ill because I see that you and Richard Lyle agreed with each other. I will need to keep taking my pills. ...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
We have missed out on the opportunity to have a Findlay-Lyle pact, but maybe that is still to come. It is welcome to pick up the bill again for stage 3. I t...
Graeme Dey SNP
I thank members for their contributions to the debate. Before I turn to some of the points that have been raised, I record my appreciation for the efforts of...
Richard Lyle SNP
I welcome the fact that—as I hope is the case—the minister is about to announce that the situation with regard to candidates’ addresses is about to be review...
Graeme Dey SNP
I indicated to the committee that I plan to make changes by secondary legislation to address those legitimate points. We will not face a council by-election ...
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
That concludes our stage 3 debate on the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill.