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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 03 June 2020

03 Jun 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill
Ruskell, Mark Green Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I will keep my comments on the bill relatively brief. However, as others have done, I thank the clerks and all those who gave evidence throughout the passage of the bill. I also thank the minister for his constructive attitude throughout the bill in discussing a variety of amendments that came through committee, and that have been debated in the Scottish Parliament today.

This is, largely, a technical bill. Its purpose is not wholesale democratic renewal or increasing voter turnout. We still need to do a lot of work to renew our democracy and to encourage democratic participation at all levels. In fact, reform work still needs to be done in this session of the Scottish Parliament ahead of the next Scottish Parliament elections—whenever they might be.

The Electoral Commission’s briefing for this afternoon’s debate points out two areas of that reform work. One is the need to increase fines in relation to the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000; a second is about the inclusion of imprints on digital campaigning, which is hugely important. We saw the role of digital campaigning in the recent European referendums, and we are in a situation in which a lot of the campaigning in the run-up to the Holyrood elections will be digitally based. It is really important that voters understand who is paying for the messages that flash across their social media screens during those elections.

As others have done, I highlight the very welcome simplified registration for 14-year-olds to join the electoral register as attainers. I was thinking about that the other night, because my son will turn 14 in just a couple of weeks’ time. He is already starting to show an interest in who makes decisions about things locally, has been in touch with his local councillors, and has actually got a few wins, which is great to see.

As he goes into secondary 3, he has gotten interested in national and international politics through his modern studies. There is a great opportunity in S3 to prepare young people to be active citizens. In many ways, the generation that is coming through now is the first to really understand what we are doing to the world and the last that can do anything about it. That places a huge responsibility on their shoulders as citizens and, quite frankly, the earlier that they can start democratic participation in life, the better.

I welcome a number of other things in the bill. We had a useful debate this afternoon, and at stage 2, about the importance of including people with sight loss and making the voting system easier for them, whether through a tactile system or an electronic device. We need to improve the voting experience for people, as well as its security.

In relation to people with sight loss, the use of an electronic device is a responsible use of the technology. A wider roll-out of e-voting would not be responsible, particularly given the major concerns raised by a number of European countries that have attempted to roll out electronic voting in recent years. Any voting system that we put in place has to be secure, anonymous and verifiable: paper and pencil is the most secure, anonymous and verifiable system that we can put in place, as long as people are able to use it. The exception that proves that rule is the plight of people who have sight loss, who often need another person with them to be able to vote.

I am pleased to hear from the minister that voting pilots will be brought back to Holyrood; I am sure that they will come under a good degree of scrutiny. I am also pleased to hear that a review of local government electoral systems and boundaries might be coming, perhaps not in this parliamentary session but in the next one. I agree that the issue is complex, but, after 13 years, there is the appetite to review whether we have the system right and how we can improve it.

There is a lot of work to do with regard to our democratic renewal. I hope that the Government does not wait too long to put in place the final pieces of the electoral reform that it needs to make in this session to enable the Holyrood elections to take place, and that whatever Government takes the reins at Holyrood next time, that there will be a more radical view of democratic reform and voter turnout, so that we can start to incentivise active citizens in our society.

16:12  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-21891, in the name of Graeme Dey, on the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill. I call Graeme Dey to speak to ...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
I thank everyone who has engaged with the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill throughout its parliamentary passage. Many constructive contributions from all par...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I very much agree with those points. The Electoral Commission has told us that it is really keen that the legislation is in place six months before it is nee...
Graeme Dey SNP
That is certainly the intention. Although we could not support Colin Smyth’s amendment earlier, I acknowledge how well intentioned it was. I am pleased that...
James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I understand that the priority of the Government and everyone else is tackling issues around the pandemic. However, bearing in mind that the Electoral Commis...
Graeme Dey SNP
The work that is going on now will inform any decisions that require to be made further down the line by the Parliament. However, to give some assurance on M...
Adam Tomkins (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I start with the important points that Sarah Boyack and James Kelly made to the minister. It is important that we all understand that, today, the Electoral C...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I too thank the clerks and all those who have given evidence to enable us to get a bill that, although it is not the longest, has important points that need ...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I will keep my comments on the bill relatively brief. However, as others have done, I thank the clerks and all those who gave evidence throughout the passage...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I thank the clerks, the committee, the officials and witnesses as well as the advisers for their work on the bill. The minister is right in what he has said ...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in the stage 3 debate as the passage of the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill nears its end. I, too, thank the bill team and the clerks ...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am delighted to participate in the stage 3 debate on the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill. The proposals in the bill make some sensible changes to the Scot...
James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I rise to speak in favour of the bill, which Scottish Labour will support at decision time. As Mark Ruskell said, the bill is largely technical, but there a...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I do not want to sound too party political, but we should bear it in mind that, at the time, the United Kingdom Government had responsibility for elections i...
James Kelly Lab
I do not think that that was a helpful intervention, to be honest. I will mention some of the other aspects of the bill. It is important that the provisions...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
As the convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee, I have worked with colleagues over months on the shared goal of strengthening...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the closing speeches. 16:33
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I echo the words of the convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee and express my solidarity with all those who are protesting a...
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
We’ll no be here.
Neil Findlay Lab
Exactly. It is very important for Mr Lyle and me that that election happens on time. Some people might not want it to, but I hope that, in summing up, the mi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much, Mr Findlay. I must be feeling ill because I see that you and Richard Lyle agreed with each other. I will need to keep taking my pills. ...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
We have missed out on the opportunity to have a Findlay-Lyle pact, but maybe that is still to come. It is welcome to pick up the bill again for stage 3. I t...
Graeme Dey SNP
I thank members for their contributions to the debate. Before I turn to some of the points that have been raised, I record my appreciation for the efforts of...
Richard Lyle SNP
I welcome the fact that—as I hope is the case—the minister is about to announce that the situation with regard to candidates’ addresses is about to be review...
Graeme Dey SNP
I indicated to the committee that I plan to make changes by secondary legislation to address those legitimate points. We will not face a council by-election ...
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
That concludes our stage 3 debate on the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill.