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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 17 June 2020

17 Jun 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Animals and Wildlife (Penalties, Protections and Powers) (Scotland) Bill
Martin, Gillian SNP Aberdeenshire East Watch on SPTV

The clock starts now, Presiding Officer.

As the minister did, I will concentrate on the initial policy aim of the bill, which is to increase penalties for animal abuse. However, first, I will put on my Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee hat and mention the committee’s vital role in scrutinising policy and teasing out all the consequences. I will not say any more about that; other people have mentioned it.

The committee scrutinised the bill well. We had some quite incredible evidence on the need for increased penalties, including the potential for increased custodial sentences for the most heinous crimes against animals. That evidence prompted the committee to push the Government to make changes to the bill, including changes in relation to the criminalisation of the wilful destruction of animal habitats, which in many cases is tantamount to killing them; the power of the SSPCA to investigate a case when an animal is found dead as a result of suspected cruelty; and better intelligence sharing between law enforcement and the SSPCA.

I thank the minister for her receptiveness not only to the committee’s recommendations, but to the many amendments that were lodged at stage 2. She worked with members, which is to her credit—she has done an outstanding job.

One of the most important measures in the bill is that relating to the ability to quickly and permanently rehome animals that are seized as part of a police investigation. Along with colleagues at the SSPCA, I have called for that for a long time. I have spoken before about the devastating situation in Fyvie, in my constituency, where hundreds of bitches and pups were illegally kept in appalling conditions. Many members will have seen the BBC Scotland documentary that featured shocking pictures of the burnt bodies of puppies in a burnt-out car. The memory of that will never leave me. The outcome of the prosecution of those responsible could not include significantly proportionate custodial sentencing. The surviving animals were cared for by the SSPCA in shelters for the two years that it took for the animal abuser who bred them to be sentenced, as, time and again, he attempted to frustrate the legal process. Many of the animals had to be put to sleep as they were in such poor health. The bill will rectify all of that and will send a strong signal that in Scotland time is up for animal abusers such as Frank James.

I still have a few seconds left, so I have time to say that, as the grey seal champion, I am delighted that seals cannot be shot any more, even if that measure came in at the last minute. We saw hardly any seals when I was growing up in Newburgh, but now, because they are not being shot any more, the haul-out site there is filled with thousands of them—we are becoming quite famous for it.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Lewis Macdonald) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-22044, in the name of Mairi Gougeon, on the Animals and Wildlife (Penalties, Protections and Powers) (Sco...
The Minister for Rural Affairs and the Natural Environment (Mairi Gougeon) SNP
I am delighted to present the Animals and Wildlife (Penalties, Protections and Powers) (Scotland) Bill to Parliament for the stage 3 debate. I am passionate ...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I appreciate that today has been a long day and I deliberately did not participate in the stage 3 deliberations. However, I want to put on the record two imp...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Minister, can you start to wind up, please?
Mairi Gougeon SNP
Yes, I will be as brief as I can. We tried to give the committee as much notice as we could about the seal amendment, and we have engaged with the industry...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
From the outset and at all stages, the Scottish Conservatives have supported the general principles of the bill, which are to update the Animal Health and We...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
This is, indeed, an important bill, and it is right that penalties and powers related to the offences in the bill are brought into line with a more modern un...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Liam McArthur to make a remote contribution, for which he has up to three minutes. 19:56
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Gillian Martin is the only speaker in the open debate. I will have to hold her to three minutes. 20:00
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
The clock starts now, Presiding Officer. As the minister did, I will concentrate on the initial policy aim of the bill, which is to increase penalties for a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We move to the closing speeches. 20:03
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
In closing for the Scottish Conservatives, I express my thanks to the Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee for its work on the bill. The Con...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
If anything can be taken from the debate, it is the passion and strength of feeling that members across the chamber have for animal welfare and our wildlife,...