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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 03 June 2020

03 Jun 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill
Stewart, Alexander Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I am delighted to participate in the stage 3 debate on the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill. The proposals in the bill make some sensible changes to the Scottish democratic process. Of course, the primary change is to amend the periods between Scottish Parliament and local government elections from four to five years. The new timescale will ensure that Holyrood and local council elections will not take place on the same day.

However, that is no guarantee, as it does not prevent Westminster elections from occurring on the same day as either Scottish Parliament or local government elections, and we have already heard that the United Kingdom Government’s intention is to repeal the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011. We are not yet sure what it will replace that act with, but it wishes to remove it. Regardless of that, UK general elections can take place and have taken place outwith fixed terms, even with the act in place. Therefore, although the proposed changes make clashes less likely, they cannot prevent them entirely. However, in such circumstances, the Parliament would be able to take further steps to avoid future clashes.

Having served in years gone by as a councillor for a single-member ward, I recognise the benefits of that system, in which a small electorate could have one dedicated councillor. That meant that, in some rural wards, things were managed much more sensibly. However, I also acknowledge the benefits that multimember wards have brought to Scottish local government by ensuring more flexibility with representation across the piece.

We have discussed the introduction of the two-member ward system, which I think combines the benefits of both systems. As has already been indicated, however, we must ensure that we have such wards only in exceptional circumstances and where a three-member ward would be totally impractical. We have also discussed five-member wards, which will be brought in for our most densely populated areas and which will help to ensure a more proportional result for local government across the area concerned.

Those proposals should be seen as sensible in relation to the review of local government. Certain areas can experience significant development and an increase in population over short periods, which must be reflected in an examination of the electoral system. Allowing boundaries Scotland to determine when electoral wards are to be reviewed—as long as that is done within a set period—gives us much more flexibility, which I think is vital.

The proposed change to allow the Scottish Parliament’s Presiding Officer to postpone elections is also sensible. We can see the implications of the public health crisis that we are experiencing and suffering. The current situation could create the opportunity for an election to be managed in a way that would allow a postponement to take place. The fact that the Presiding Officer will have to consult the Electoral Commission before setting any new date is welcome, as that gives us some safeguards.

Members have made some very strong contributions in the debate and throughout the three stages of our scrutiny of the bill. Adam Tomkins spoke about the commitment to the six-month timetable. We have discussed that issue, and I can tell the minister that I am delighted that it is being considered as we move towards the next Scottish Parliament elections.

Sarah Boyack talked about ensuring that we have younger voters. It is vital that we engage with young people and ensure that they understand democracy at the local level and at the parliamentary level, and how it is brought together.

Willie Rennie was quite correct when he spoke about ensuring that we are flexible and said that there is still a lot of work to be done.

The bill helps to ensure that our democratic processes in Scotland are updated, refreshed and flexible. For that and many other reasons, I support the bill.

16:25  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-21891, in the name of Graeme Dey, on the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill. I call Graeme Dey to speak to ...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
I thank everyone who has engaged with the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill throughout its parliamentary passage. Many constructive contributions from all par...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I very much agree with those points. The Electoral Commission has told us that it is really keen that the legislation is in place six months before it is nee...
Graeme Dey SNP
That is certainly the intention. Although we could not support Colin Smyth’s amendment earlier, I acknowledge how well intentioned it was. I am pleased that...
James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I understand that the priority of the Government and everyone else is tackling issues around the pandemic. However, bearing in mind that the Electoral Commis...
Graeme Dey SNP
The work that is going on now will inform any decisions that require to be made further down the line by the Parliament. However, to give some assurance on M...
Adam Tomkins (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I start with the important points that Sarah Boyack and James Kelly made to the minister. It is important that we all understand that, today, the Electoral C...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I too thank the clerks and all those who have given evidence to enable us to get a bill that, although it is not the longest, has important points that need ...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I will keep my comments on the bill relatively brief. However, as others have done, I thank the clerks and all those who gave evidence throughout the passage...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I thank the clerks, the committee, the officials and witnesses as well as the advisers for their work on the bill. The minister is right in what he has said ...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
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Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am delighted to participate in the stage 3 debate on the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill. The proposals in the bill make some sensible changes to the Scot...
James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I rise to speak in favour of the bill, which Scottish Labour will support at decision time. As Mark Ruskell said, the bill is largely technical, but there a...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I do not want to sound too party political, but we should bear it in mind that, at the time, the United Kingdom Government had responsibility for elections i...
James Kelly Lab
I do not think that that was a helpful intervention, to be honest. I will mention some of the other aspects of the bill. It is important that the provisions...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
As the convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee, I have worked with colleagues over months on the shared goal of strengthening...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the closing speeches. 16:33
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I echo the words of the convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee and express my solidarity with all those who are protesting a...
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
We’ll no be here.
Neil Findlay Lab
Exactly. It is very important for Mr Lyle and me that that election happens on time. Some people might not want it to, but I hope that, in summing up, the mi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much, Mr Findlay. I must be feeling ill because I see that you and Richard Lyle agreed with each other. I will need to keep taking my pills. ...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
We have missed out on the opportunity to have a Findlay-Lyle pact, but maybe that is still to come. It is welcome to pick up the bill again for stage 3. I t...
Graeme Dey SNP
I thank members for their contributions to the debate. Before I turn to some of the points that have been raised, I record my appreciation for the efforts of...
Richard Lyle SNP
I welcome the fact that—as I hope is the case—the minister is about to announce that the situation with regard to candidates’ addresses is about to be review...
Graeme Dey SNP
I indicated to the committee that I plan to make changes by secondary legislation to address those legitimate points. We will not face a council by-election ...
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
That concludes our stage 3 debate on the Scottish Elections (Reform) Bill.