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Meeting of the Parliament 24 March 2020

24 Mar 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Coronavirus Bill

No. I am sorry, but I do not have time. I have to get through this.

I am in favour of a two-month reporting period, and I commit myself to that and will put it in the bill. I have already said to officials—who have been working incredibly hard on the bill, as has Jenny Gilruth—that we must ensure that we have a reporting schedule such that people understand what we are reporting, why we are reporting it and what it means.

With respect to the food-stock matters that were raised by Patrick Harvie and Pauline McNeill, I wish we had the power to deal with price gouging. However, I am pretty certain that that power is reserved to Westminster, as part of trading standards. However, we have the power—as Mr Harvie pointed out in committee this morning—to purchase food if we require it. We already do so for food banks. I will check that, but I hope that that power already exists. If there are such powers already in statute, we should tell people that they exist and are available if we need them.

On Willie Rennie’s point about care assessments, I reassure him that the provision in the bill is not an excuse for local authorities not to act. It enables them to act more quickly than they might otherwise do under existing legislation. That is a power that we need to keep an eye on, because no authority should use it as an opportunity not to act.

I have dealt with escalating prices, on which Anas Sarwar raised not one point, but five—or six; I probably missed one. I acknowledge his industry as well as his inquiring mind. The reporting period will be two months. The legislation on cremation already requires that the people who are involved in a cremation must take account of the faith or belief of the person who is to be cremated. The bill emphasises that point and does not change it. I heard Mr Sarwar’s earlier question to the Cabinet Secretary for Justice on the issue. I think that we can give reassurance on that.

We will be involved in the UK action on supply chains—I heard the Scottish Grocers Federation make that point on Radio Scotland this morning.

We must act very sparingly in relation to mental health legislation. The provisions are extensive and many of us are uncomfortable with them. I know that Angela Constance, with her experience in the mental health profession, raised that issue in the Finance and Constitution Committee today. We will ensure that the powers are used sparingly and we will make sure that we report on their use, so that people know about them.

We have spoken with the Scottish Human Rights Commission and we are continuing to listen to it as we discuss best practice in drafting the new bill, which we will discuss with Opposition spokespeople this evening—and we will continue to discuss the bill with them as it progresses. We will also keep the protection of vulnerable groups scheme under review. That is a sensitive issue and, as the former Cabinet Secretary for Education, I am aware that the scheme is a vital service that keeps children safe. There is no intention to weaken the service, but we mighty have to streamline it; that could eventually be where we end up.

The Coronavirus Bill is a difficult bill; it is full of detail and it is required now. I will go back to where I started. I look forward very much to the day when the legislation is no longer necessary and we can put it behind us, but necessity will drive us. In the circumstances, I hope that everybody will support it.

I hope, moreover, that parties will continue to work with the Scottish Government—because the offer exists, as Alex Rowley acknowledged—to make sure not only that we get the emergency bill that we are already working on, and which we hope to bring to the chamber for a single day next week, through Parliament, but that we can progress other legislation, as gaps occur.

This will be the third time that I have referred warmly to Willie Rennie, so I think that this will be the end of it, for today, but I want to make the point that he made. We need to look at the legislation and its operation to see whether there are things that we did not get right, or that we need to build on. We will try to do that in further legislation, as required.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on legislative consent motion S5M-21322, in the name of Michael Russell, on the United Kingdom Coronavirus Bill. 15:49
The Cabinet Secretary for the Constitution, Europe and External Affairs (Michael Russell) SNP
Less than a week ago, I updated members in the chamber on the introduction by the United Kingdom Government of the Coronavirus Bill and set out the measures ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Bruce Crawford to speak on behalf of the Finance and Constitution Committee for up to five minutes, please. 15:56
Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
We find ourselves in exceptional circumstances. We are considering a bill and a legislative consent memorandum that seek extraordinary powers in an effort to...
Bill Bowman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I speak as the convener of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee. We discussed the bill at our meeting this morning, although, given the urgency of t...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I will make a brief contribution on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives and say at the outset that we will support the legislative consent motion at decisio...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
Labour, too, will support the Government today. I put on record my thanks to the cabinet secretary for the cross-party dialogue that has taken place today re...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
The Greens will also support the legislative consent motion. I say that as someone who has a long-standing grievance—I know that that word is sometimes used ...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
Bruce Crawford summed up the situation well when he said that “we are in a war against an unseen and deadly enemy”, and that we need to work in partnership...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
To anyone who has any doubts that the bill is necessary, I would just say one word: Italy. Italy has an excellent health service—not unlike our NHS—and, at t...
Ruth Davidson (Edinburgh Central) (Con) Con
For me, this debate on the bill and the legislative consent motion is about one thing only: trust. It is about trusting the UK and Scottish Governments to ma...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I begin with my heartfelt thanks to the committee, the First Minister, all Scottish Government ministers and Aileen Campbell, in particular, who made the rig...
Anas Sarwar (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Time is short, so I will be brief. I want to raise some concerns with the minister. Labour members support the legislation. However, it should be subject to...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The cabinet secretary opened the debate by saying that the restrictions that came into effect at midnight last night will feel difficult and strange to many ...
Adam Tomkins (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I will reflect in my remarks on the nature of emergency power and human rights. Ruth Davidson spoke about John Stuart Mill; I will go even further back and ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before I call the cabinet secretary, I say that I should have said earlier that members should note that decision time has been delayed; you might have notic...
Michael Russell SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I also thank members for the very constructive nature of the debate. I will try to get through a number of the points that have...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Michael Russell SNP
No. I am sorry, but I do not have time. I have to get through this. I am in favour of a two-month reporting period, and I commit myself to that and will put...