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Meeting of the Parliament 19 February 2020

19 Feb 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
National Health Service

Anyone out in the real world who has been watching the debate so far will think that the cabinet secretary does not have a grasp of what is going on in our health service. Her turning up for a photo call is one thing, but the daily emails that I receive from members of the NHS workforce show the trouble that they are in and that the cabinet secretary is not listening.

I welcome the debate, which builds on the debate that I led in the chamber in April 2019 on standing up for all those who work in our health service.

As in last April’s debate, I put on record my party’s gratitude to and support for each and every member of NHS staff in Scotland. Our NHS staff are, fundamentally, our NHS. They are the most valuable resource that we have. They are incredibly hard working and, despite the pressures that are put on them by ministers, they provide each of our constituents with first-class healthcare.

I am disappointed that the Scottish Government has not done more since last April’s debate to introduce some of the positive measures that members suggested to address workforce issues, staff workload concerns and working conditions, or to tackle the severe staff shortages in the NHS.

Earlier, Monica Lennon mentioned junior doctors working hours, which I have raised before. Last year, I was pleased to host a round-table meeting in Parliament with Brian Connelly, the father of a 23-year-old junior doctor who, sadly, was killed driving home after a 12-hour night shift. I pay tribute to Mr Connelly again on his campaigning. However, we need action on the issue, so I would be grateful if, in closing the debate, ministers could use the opportunity to tell us about what has come out of the work of the expert working group that is chaired by Professor Cachia. We should have heard about that earlier, and it is important for members and any junior doctors in the public gallery to understand where the Government is going with that work.

I have given my backing to the Royal College of Anaesthetists’ excellent fight fatigue campaign, which is a suggestion-based solution to how to support NHS staff.

The briefings from the BMA and the RCN for the debate highlight workforce concerns that we should all be acutely aware of. In the RCN’s 2019 employment survey, 60 per cent of respondents agreed that they are “under too much pressure” at work, with 70 per cent reporting that they work over

“their contracted hours at least once a week”

and 52 per cent reporting that they work beyond their contracted hours in each hospital shift. That demonstrates just how much more needs to be done to support NHS staff in Scotland. We need to look at such support holistically, which means looking at pre-shift and post-shift support.

Having rest facilities in hospitals and properly timetabled rotas so that staff can get a break are measures that could improve NHS staff wellbeing and effectiveness and, most important, their safety. For example, we have been calling for the Scottish Government to introduce sleep pods in hospital campuses, where which staff can rest before they head home or start shifts. I urge ministers to work with our health boards across Scotland to take that issue forward.

We want every health board to provide quality mental health and financial support and advice to NHS staff. With NHS staff absentee rates at such high levels, we need to look to invest now in better mental health support for our NHS workforce.

Issues and difficulties around parking are constantly raised with me. NHS staff at hospitals in Edinburgh and Glasgow and at Ninewells hospital still have to face parking charges. In campaigning to end that unfair charging, the Scottish Conservatives have put forward a solution: a refund scheme for NHS staff. The Government can take that forward, and I hope that all members can get behind it. The Scottish Government’s proposed budget does not include a refund scheme, but we can implement one—and it is costed. I hope that ministers will look to implement such a scheme. The charges must come to an end for NHS staff who work at those sites and still pay them. Ministers have had the powers to deal with that for 13 years.

We also want to see a comprehensive national review of parking for patients. In many cases—including many in Edinburgh, as I know from my own mailbag—when people go to hospital, they find the stress of parking, or there being no capacity to park, a significant issue. As a Parliament, we can address that. Money can be made available, given the £7 million in Barnett consequentials for parking that is coming to the Parliament. I hope that ministers will try to take that issue forward.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-20882, in the name of Monica Lennon, on standing up for national health service staff and patients. 14:40
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am grateful for the opportunity to use Scottish Labour’s debate time to stand up for our NHS. The motion is titled “Standing up for NHS Staff and Patients”...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport (Jeane Freeman) SNP
I am pleased to take part in the debate. We are all living longer lives now, and that is indeed good news. It is a testament to the work that our NHS underta...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I struggle to understand how increases in demand led to bad decision making regarding the building of two hospitals at both ends of the M8.
Jeane Freeman SNP
If I had been suggesting that, then I would have struggled along with the member. I am one minute and 13 seconds in to my speech, so give me a moment. Wher...
Monica Lennon Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Jeane Freeman SNP
No—let me finish. Three years ago, in February 2017, Labour announced that it was establishing an NHS workforce commission. Three years on, what is that com...
Monica Lennon Lab
We have been busy meeting the people who cannot get in front of the cabinet secretary, although she claims to have an open door. She made it a priority to es...
Jeane Freeman SNP
My response is absolutely none of those things, because that long list that Monica Lennon produced is a list of actions that we are taking—I have met those p...
Jeane Freeman SNP
I will take no more interventions.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Excuse me, ladies. You should not have private conversations and arguments across the chamber. Everything should come through me.
Jeane Freeman SNP
My apologies, Presiding Officer. Under this Government, since 2006-07, the annual resource investment in health has risen by 62.9 per cent, and our draft bu...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Will Jeane Freeman take an intervention?
Jeane Freeman SNP
No—I have a lot to get through. A 95 per cent performance rate for the 31-day cancer target has been met and improvements are coming through on the 62-day t...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
Anyone out in the real world who has been watching the debate so far will think that the cabinet secretary does not have a grasp of what is going on in our h...
Jeane Freeman SNP
Will Miles Briggs accept two things and clarify one thing for me? First, does he accept that it was an SNP Government that abolished parking charges in those...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Briggs can have extra time.
Miles Briggs Con
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. On Jeane Freeman’s first point, yes, but that was not the case in three hospitals where NHS staff still have to pay ...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
I thank the Labour Party for bringing these issues to the chamber. Given the challenges that our health service has been facing in the past few months, the d...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
I agree with a lot of what the member says. Does she accept that we will need to disinvest in hospitals if we are going to put more money into the community?
Alison Johnstone Green
That is a big question, which I do not have time to cover in this debate. Health inequalities, which drive a great deal of the pressure on our NHS, continue...
Monica Lennon Lab
When Alison Johnstone mentioned Brian Houston’s resignation, the Minister for Mental Health rolled her eyes. Do we have complacency at the heart of Governmen...
The Minister for Mental Health (Clare Haughey) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I find the remarks that Monica Lennon has just made about me to be insulting. What my gestures are when I am not maki...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You have placed your feelings on the record, minister. We will now go back to Alison Johnstone.
Alison Johnstone Green
It is clear that people in management at NHS Lothian are not feeling wholly supported or valued. That is concerning in any workplace but, in our health servi...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
It often sounds slightly clichéd to begin a speech such as this one by thanking NHS staff, but I do thank them, because they have saved the lives of two of m...
John Mason SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Not at this time. I need to make some progress. I recognise that the departures of Tim Davison and Brian Houston, coming as they do, side by side, will crea...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I will take an intervention from James Dornan, if John Mason is not ready to intervene.