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Meeting of the Parliament 22 January 2020

22 Jan 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Local Government (Funding)

Absolutely. I am reminded by my colleague of PFI, which was an utterly failed attempt by Labour to invest in schools across the country, and one that we will continue to pay for, for generations to come.

We are certainly not complacent and we need to think about the future. Last year, we celebrated the 20th anniversary of the Scottish Parliament, which provided us with a useful opportunity to think about what next for the governance of Scotland and to consider where power should lie, how we empower our communities and what needs to change to ensure that governance in Scotland is fit for purpose for the next 20 years and beyond. That shared endeavour between the Scottish Government and COSLA has included significant work by my colleague Kate Forbes to look at fiscal empowerment for local government and providing it with more fiscal autonomy.

Our commitment to that can be seen in the changes that we are making to the local taxation landscape, which are giving greater fiscal autonomy to our partners in local authorities. We have introduced the first primary legislation on non-domestic rates since devolution and our commitment to a package of measures on local taxation, including providing new tax powers to local authorities, will, if supported by Parliament, be the biggest empowerment of local authorities since devolution.

However, as I said at the start of my remarks, all of that partnership work and focus on outcomes and wellbeing faces enormous challenge. Our resources have been constrained by a decade of United Kingdom austerity, and the UK spending round announcements in September did nothing to reverse that damage. Our discretionary resource budget from the UK Government will in real terms be around 2.8 per cent lower in 2020-21 than it was in 2010. That is why it is absolutely unacceptable that the UK Government has failed to adequately engage with the Scottish Government on the budget timetable.

On top of that, I remind Mr Rowley that we are trying to tackle poverty with one hand tied behind our back and against a backdrop of callous and cruel social security cuts, which stymies our efforts to deliver positive outcomes for the most vulnerable. Analysis published in 2018 found that UK Government cuts would reduce social security spend by up to £3.7 billion by 2020-21. Those are brutal cuts that leave us trying to mitigate their worst impacts by mitigating the bedroom tax and providing crisis grants but, as United Nations special rapporteur Philip Alston said,

“mitigation comes at a price and is not sustainable.”

As we debate where and what we should spend our money on and how we should ensure positive outcomes in the communities that we are elected to represent and serve, members must hold us to account and scrutinise the choices that we make. However, let us not forget the hurt and pain that has been caused by austerity and welfare reforms, and let us not forget to point the finger of blame fairly and squarely at the UK Government.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-20528, in the name of Sarah Boyack, on investing in our future. 14:37
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Local government is at the heart of our communities and is the key vehicle through which our Parliament supports people in their lives. Our councils deliver ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Sarah Boyack Lab
Yes, briefly.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is time in hand, so do not worry about interventions. That goes for the whole chamber.
John Mason SNP
Is the member arguing that, in recent years, the national health service has had too much money and that local government has not had enough?
Sarah Boyack Lab
No. I recommend that the member looks at the Official Report of the Local Government and Communities Committee, in which members across the parties talk abou...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
Everything that Sarah Boyack described seems eminently desirable. Will Labour bring forward an alternative budget to say how we will pay for all the asks in ...
Sarah Boyack Lab
We are all keen to see the Scottish National Party Government’s budget as well. In considering the key issues, we must not just look to the future, but re...
Tom Arthur (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) SNP
On several occasions, the member has said that there has been a disproportionate cut to local government budgets. The corollary of that is that is there has ...
Sarah Boyack Lab
Well, we will not be throwing money into preparing for a second independence referendum, that is for sure. Interruption.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No, no. Excuse me! I cannot hear anything and I want to hear the debate.
Sarah Boyack Lab
If we are going to empower local communities, let us start with our local councils and let us start now. Being a valued and essential partner is utterly mean...
The Cabinet Secretary for Communities and Local Government (Aileen Campbell) SNP
Today’s debate is important because it gives us a chance to recognise the importance of local government in supporting our people and communities. Working w...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
A report from the Accounts Commission from just the other week said that since 2013-14, there has been a real-terms reduction to council funding of 7.6 per c...
Aileen Campbell SNP
I remind Graham Simpson that, if we had followed his party’s budget proposals last year, South Lanarkshire Council, the council on which he was a representat...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
The cabinet secretary is quite right to point out that, if we accepted the Tory proposals for the budget, the cuts to public services would be even deeper. I...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Rowley.
Alex Rowley Lab
I accept that the Scottish Government is working under financial restraints, but does the cabinet secretary accept that we need to focus more on tackling ine...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You should have been on the list to speak, Mr Rowley, but I do not mind, because we have time in hand.
Aileen Campbell SNP
I absolutely agree that we need to tackle inequality in our country. That is why, as I announced last year, we will be taking forward the Scottish child paym...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister reflect on the fact that the learning estate investment programme, or LEIP, is not an investment programme but a maintenance programme, and...
Aileen Campbell SNP
We have the schools for the future investment programme and we are investing to support the most vulnerable pupils in our country. We are certainly proud of ...
Daniel Johnson Lab
I was talking about LEIP.
The Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning (Kevin Stewart) SNP
It is better than the private finance initiative for schools.
Aileen Campbell SNP
Absolutely. I am reminded by my colleague of PFI, which was an utterly failed attempt by Labour to invest in schools across the country, and one that we will...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will Aileen Campbell take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The minister is just closing, Mr Findlay.
Aileen Campbell SNP
Let us not forget that if any of the parties that are taking part in the debate want us to make different choices or have different priorities, they must be ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Murdo Fraser to speak to and move amendment S5M-20528.1. If you take interventions, Mr Fraser, I will extend your time accordingly. 15:01