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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 22 January 2020

22 Jan 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Local Government (Funding)

No. I recommend that the member looks at the Official Report of the Local Government and Communities Committee, in which members across the parties talk about preventative spend. The issue is not just about money for local government; it is about a joined-approach that enables people to be cared for by local government, so that they can avoid going into NHS facilities in the first place.

Local government in Scotland is as diverse as the communities that it serves, and every council has to deliver the education that our young people need. However, the ring fencing in the Scottish Government budget leaves little scope for the differing educational needs of our communities to be reflected in our schools.

Although teachers’ wages are rightly increasing, local government is facing an insurmountable challenge to ensure that classrooms are adequately staffed, not just with teachers but with classroom assistants and other vital support staff. How can it be right that access to music tuition increasingly is for only those students whose families can afford it?

It is not just through schools that local authorities have the capacity to impact and shape educational opportunities. Through community investment, they have the power to enable school students to enjoy and learn about the local environment that they live in, enable them to take part in community projects and make sure that we have empowered communities.

Our motion talks about the critical issue of transport services. Our local councils provide the day-to-day transport infrastructure that we need, but cash-strapped councils struggle to repair vital infrastructure. The climate emergency means that we urgently need to rethink how we do transport: we need more bus and active travel commuting options. However, the Scottish Government’s ring fencing of funding has meant that, as councils grapple with tough decisions, non-core-funded services get cut. Whether it is having to leave a pothole for an extra six months or deciding against making crucial improvements to transport links, those are the realities of day-to-day cuts to council budgets.

An example of what we need to do is the Labour amendments to the Transport (Scotland) Act 2019, which enable our authorities to run and invest in their own bus services. However, that needs investment in skills and capital investment in buses. It would be a win-win for councils across the country to own and operate their local bus services. We just need to look at services in my area. Affordable public transport that people can rely on enables an increase in low-carbon bus use, which is vital to meeting the Government’s ambitious climate targets.

Dignity and independence are crucial for people. The Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union highlights the right to dignity in its first article. That should be protected and respected. When we translate that right from aspirational politics into day-to-day reality, local government is responsible for upholding it.

What does dignity mean? It is the ability for people to live independently in their own homes and to know that they will be looked after when they need to be. Local government is responsible for supporting people throughout their lives—whether that is through providing social care, ensuring that infrastructure that they need for work and other activities is in place, or making the best of slashed budgets to look after them while they are at school.

Respecting and protecting dignity through adequate service provision at the local level is a vital aspect of long-term planning. To pick up on John Mason’s point, by investing in social care, local authorities are not just supporting people as individuals but relieving the burden on the NHS through enabling them to live at home, as long as they can do so safely.

However, in 2018-19, delayed discharges cost the NHS £129 million. That is hampering local government’s ability to carry out preventative spending tasks.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-20528, in the name of Sarah Boyack, on investing in our future. 14:37
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Local government is at the heart of our communities and is the key vehicle through which our Parliament supports people in their lives. Our councils deliver ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Sarah Boyack Lab
Yes, briefly.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is time in hand, so do not worry about interventions. That goes for the whole chamber.
John Mason SNP
Is the member arguing that, in recent years, the national health service has had too much money and that local government has not had enough?
Sarah Boyack Lab
No. I recommend that the member looks at the Official Report of the Local Government and Communities Committee, in which members across the parties talk abou...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
Everything that Sarah Boyack described seems eminently desirable. Will Labour bring forward an alternative budget to say how we will pay for all the asks in ...
Sarah Boyack Lab
We are all keen to see the Scottish National Party Government’s budget as well. In considering the key issues, we must not just look to the future, but re...
Tom Arthur (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) SNP
On several occasions, the member has said that there has been a disproportionate cut to local government budgets. The corollary of that is that is there has ...
Sarah Boyack Lab
Well, we will not be throwing money into preparing for a second independence referendum, that is for sure. Interruption.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No, no. Excuse me! I cannot hear anything and I want to hear the debate.
Sarah Boyack Lab
If we are going to empower local communities, let us start with our local councils and let us start now. Being a valued and essential partner is utterly mean...
The Cabinet Secretary for Communities and Local Government (Aileen Campbell) SNP
Today’s debate is important because it gives us a chance to recognise the importance of local government in supporting our people and communities. Working w...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
A report from the Accounts Commission from just the other week said that since 2013-14, there has been a real-terms reduction to council funding of 7.6 per c...
Aileen Campbell SNP
I remind Graham Simpson that, if we had followed his party’s budget proposals last year, South Lanarkshire Council, the council on which he was a representat...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
The cabinet secretary is quite right to point out that, if we accepted the Tory proposals for the budget, the cuts to public services would be even deeper. I...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Rowley.
Alex Rowley Lab
I accept that the Scottish Government is working under financial restraints, but does the cabinet secretary accept that we need to focus more on tackling ine...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You should have been on the list to speak, Mr Rowley, but I do not mind, because we have time in hand.
Aileen Campbell SNP
I absolutely agree that we need to tackle inequality in our country. That is why, as I announced last year, we will be taking forward the Scottish child paym...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister reflect on the fact that the learning estate investment programme, or LEIP, is not an investment programme but a maintenance programme, and...
Aileen Campbell SNP
We have the schools for the future investment programme and we are investing to support the most vulnerable pupils in our country. We are certainly proud of ...
Daniel Johnson Lab
I was talking about LEIP.
The Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning (Kevin Stewart) SNP
It is better than the private finance initiative for schools.
Aileen Campbell SNP
Absolutely. I am reminded by my colleague of PFI, which was an utterly failed attempt by Labour to invest in schools across the country, and one that we will...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will Aileen Campbell take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The minister is just closing, Mr Findlay.
Aileen Campbell SNP
Let us not forget that if any of the parties that are taking part in the debate want us to make different choices or have different priorities, they must be ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Murdo Fraser to speak to and move amendment S5M-20528.1. If you take interventions, Mr Fraser, I will extend your time accordingly. 15:01