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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 07 January 2020

07 Jan 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Empty Homes

In our evidence taking, South Lanarkshire also stood out as a council that took a hard line on applying the empty homes surcharge, and it was rightly criticised for that. Scottish Land & Estates expressed its frustration at the inconsistent way that discretion was being applied to the levy. Its representative said that, in a number of local authorities, people with empty homes with active repair plans, some of whom are waiting for building warrants from the council, have had the 200 per cent levy applied without any discussion and, in some cases, without the council sending a representative to visit the property.

That view was echoed at an informal session that we held with people from South Lanarkshire, who said that the council applied the levy rigidly without sending anyone out to see properties. That meant that those struggling with repairs were put in an even worse position. There was a sense that some councils were using the levy as a revenue-raising tool.

I return to the local success that I mentioned. After our report was published, I commented in the local press and—I will take some credit for this—South Lanarkshire Council is now looking to take on an empty homes officer. It will be good if it does. I also hope that it will reconsider its approach to the levy, because that is not helping.

The council has a very poor track record. For example, in East Kilbride, which is in the area that I used to represent as a councillor, there is a house that is boarded up. It is fire damaged and has been empty for about 10 years. That is an example of the kind of thing that should be tackled.

Kevin Stewart’s response to our recommendation on compulsory sale orders was disappointing. We said:

“Given the strength of support for the development of CSO powers, the low uptake of CPO powers and a manifesto commitment to bring CSO powers forward in the current Parliamentary session, it is disappointing that draft proposals or legislation pertaining to CSO powers have not emerged.

Whilst acknowledging the Minister’s views on legislative priorities and the impact of Brexit, the Committee recommends that the Scottish Government brings forward strong proposals for the introduction of these powers and fulfils its manifesto commitment to bring them forward in this Parliamentary Session.

In view of the commonly cited issues associated with CPOs, the Committee would welcome an update from the Scottish Government on the development of CSO powers and how it will ensure that CSOs are less complicated, less resource intensive and less financially risky for Councils to use as an alternative to CPOs.”

The minister responded only to that last point and his response was, sadly, rather woolly. He said:

“We will bring forward a package of proposals that addresses how authorities can assemble land, tackle problem properties and capture land value uplifts ready for the next administration to consider legislating on these matters. This requires careful consideration and we will keep the Committee updated as this work progresses.”

Members should note the lack of any real timescale. That is not what we asked for, so perhaps the minister could flesh out the issue when he makes his closing speech. The proposal could be game changing with regard to getting empty homes back into use. I can see the issues and how it could be controversial, but, so long as there are checks and balances built into the legislation, councils should not be able to get ahead of themselves and order everyone to sell up. As we heard, there are lots of reasons why homes are empty. We deliberately did not look at second or holiday homes. An owner could be in hospital or in prison, or they could be abroad for a long period or mentally incapable and unable to sell.

The issue is a complex one that requires different solutions. That is why the work of the Scottish Empty Homes Partnership is so important, why having empty homes officers in every council matters and why giving councils more powers, to use with discretion and wisely, matters. Other members will focus on other parts of the report, and I look forward to hearing their contributions.

15:25  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a Local Government and Communities Committee debate on motion S5M-20280, in the name of James Dornan, on empty homes in Scotland...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to open this debate on empty homes in Scotland, on behalf of the Local Government and Communities Committee. Today’s debate reflects on the fin...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
I call Kevin Stewart. You have about 10 minutes, minister. 15:04
The Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning (Kevin Stewart) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. Happy new year to you and to everyone in the chamber. I welcome the Local Government and Communities Committee’s recent repor...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Has the minister had any discussions with the councils that are point-blank refusing to take on empty homes officers? Have they said why they will not do so?
Kevin Stewart SNP
I have talked to many councils over the past wee while, and I will outline those discussions in some depth later. I have not spoken to every council on the i...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
It is not only residential properties that are a problem in town centres; commercial properties are a problem, too. Is the planning system too inflexible to ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I do not think that there is inflexibility in the planning system. Often, local planning policies do not take account of what is happening in particular comm...
Annabelle Ewing (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP
On empty homes and the council tax surcharge, concerns were raised in the committee that some councils do not even bother to inspect the situation on site. A...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I agree with Annabelle Ewing that that is extremely discourteous. The councils that do such things look at the initiative as a revenue-raising tool, rather t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Will you wind up in a minute or so, please?
Kevin Stewart SNP
I am conscious that I have taken a lot of interventions, Presiding Officer, and there are a lot of areas to cover. I would like to cover one point relating ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Graham Simpson to speak for around nine minutes, please. 15:17
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I will do my best, Presiding Officer. I wish you and other members a very happy new year. It gives me great pleasure to kick off for the Scottish Conservati...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I, too, commend Falkirk Council for the efforts that it has made. I visited it recently in that regard. Bringing in an empty homes officer can make a real d...
Graham Simpson Con
They should certainly look to the Western Isles, but not to South Lanarkshire—maybe to Falkirk, which has been ahead on this.
Kevin Stewart SNP
Sorry—I meant Falkirk.
Graham Simpson Con
In our evidence taking, South Lanarkshire also stood out as a council that took a hard line on applying the empty homes surcharge, and it was rightly critici...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I join others in wishing members a happy new year. It is 7 January, but it still feels a bit like a new year to me—so far, anyway. I congratulate the Local ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Ms McNeill mentioned resources. My argument—the argument of the partnership and of many other stakeholders—is that, by employing an empty homes officer, loca...
Pauline McNeill Lab
That is a valid point. I am interested to know why the other local authorities have not made such an appointment. Perhaps the case for that needs to be made ...
James Dornan SNP
Does the member accept that the evidence from some local authorities was that it is not as complicated as some other authorities made out? Often, just the fe...
Pauline McNeill Lab
Yes. I noted that, in his opening remarks, the convener made the point that local authorities fear an adverse risk in going through a legal process. I have ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Glasgow City Council is a good example of an authority that is doing very well, with an increase in the number of CPOs being obtained. It is working well wit...
Pauline McNeill Lab
I agree that local authorities require legal expertise to inform them about and talk them through the risks, which might not be as adverse to their positions...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Andy Wightman, for a generous six minutes. 15:36
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I beg your pardon—was your request for a short six minutes?
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
A generous six minutes.
Andy Wightman Green
A generous six minutes—excellent. I thank members who have already spoken in the debate. The committee’s work on this subject has provided a fascinating ins...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will the member take an intervention?