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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 07 January 2020

07 Jan 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Empty Homes

A generous six minutes—excellent.

I thank members who have already spoken in the debate. The committee’s work on this subject has provided a fascinating insight into a problem that continues to bedevil Scotland. I was particularly pleased to hear in detail about and to pay attention to the work of the Scottish Empty Homes Partnership, which has done vital work in this area.

As other members have said, given the housing crisis that we face—people with no homes; others paying too much for housing; people living in unsuitable accommodation; the extent of second home ownership; and the rise of unlawful short-term letting—we should be seeking to use our existing housing stock, including empty homes, as efficiently as possible.

I note from the statistics on homelessness that, in 2018-19, 36,465 homeless applications were made across Scotland and 29,894 households were assessed as being homeless. Those figures equate to one household losing its home approximately every 17 minutes. There are more than enough empty homes to meet the housing needs of those families but, of course, they will not always be matched up. Kevin Stewart mentioned the 1,128 empty homes that were brought into use last year, but I note that, since 2016, we have had a 33 per cent increase in the number of empty homes. At that rate, 35 years will pass before they are all brought into use.

Last year, I was also intrigued to read Shelter Scotland’s empty homes value report, which managed to highlight very well the range of benefits that would accrue if we were to make better use of our housing stock. It includes a useful overview of the costs and benefits that are associated with taking action.

As other members have said, there are many reasons for houses lying empty. As our convener James Dornan mentioned, hearing direct testimony from home owners as well as case studies from professionals was particularly illuminating for the committee.

From the evidence that we took, it is clear that there is real value in councils having dedicated empty homes officers. I agree that all councils should have officers with such a function, but it is important not to get too hung up on their job titles: some of them do such work but are not called empty homes officers.

The committee also paid attention to the idea of council tax being raised. Our investigation has revealed mixed views on the powers that are available to local authorities to vary the levels of council tax that they impose. As the minister and others have said, a discount is provided with the intention that such homes should be brought back into use. The committee heard widespread criticism of the levy being applied in ways that did not take account of people’s individual circumstances. However, we also heard from authorities such as Perth and Kinross Council, which did recognise such variations. I welcome the minister’s commitment to review, in a year’s time, how the guidance in relation to this power is working. Ultimately, the council tax is a tax base that belongs to local government. Neither this Parliament nor ministers should interfere in the freedom of councils either to set tax rates as they see fit or to implement statutory variance powers.

In his intervention, Neil Findlay mentioned non-domestic properties. Councils can increase the council tax on empty homes by up to 200 per cent, but the owners of empty listed buildings or derelict land with no buildings pay no rates at all. Nor are rates paid if the owner is a trustee or a company that has been wound up. The owners of non-domestic properties that are empty in the long term enjoy a 10 per cent reduction in rates, which seems disproportionate in the relationship between the non-domestic and domestic sectors.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a Local Government and Communities Committee debate on motion S5M-20280, in the name of James Dornan, on empty homes in Scotland...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to open this debate on empty homes in Scotland, on behalf of the Local Government and Communities Committee. Today’s debate reflects on the fin...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
I call Kevin Stewart. You have about 10 minutes, minister. 15:04
The Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning (Kevin Stewart) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. Happy new year to you and to everyone in the chamber. I welcome the Local Government and Communities Committee’s recent repor...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Has the minister had any discussions with the councils that are point-blank refusing to take on empty homes officers? Have they said why they will not do so?
Kevin Stewart SNP
I have talked to many councils over the past wee while, and I will outline those discussions in some depth later. I have not spoken to every council on the i...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
It is not only residential properties that are a problem in town centres; commercial properties are a problem, too. Is the planning system too inflexible to ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I do not think that there is inflexibility in the planning system. Often, local planning policies do not take account of what is happening in particular comm...
Annabelle Ewing (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP
On empty homes and the council tax surcharge, concerns were raised in the committee that some councils do not even bother to inspect the situation on site. A...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I agree with Annabelle Ewing that that is extremely discourteous. The councils that do such things look at the initiative as a revenue-raising tool, rather t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Will you wind up in a minute or so, please?
Kevin Stewart SNP
I am conscious that I have taken a lot of interventions, Presiding Officer, and there are a lot of areas to cover. I would like to cover one point relating ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Graham Simpson to speak for around nine minutes, please. 15:17
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I will do my best, Presiding Officer. I wish you and other members a very happy new year. It gives me great pleasure to kick off for the Scottish Conservati...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I, too, commend Falkirk Council for the efforts that it has made. I visited it recently in that regard. Bringing in an empty homes officer can make a real d...
Graham Simpson Con
They should certainly look to the Western Isles, but not to South Lanarkshire—maybe to Falkirk, which has been ahead on this.
Kevin Stewart SNP
Sorry—I meant Falkirk.
Graham Simpson Con
In our evidence taking, South Lanarkshire also stood out as a council that took a hard line on applying the empty homes surcharge, and it was rightly critici...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I join others in wishing members a happy new year. It is 7 January, but it still feels a bit like a new year to me—so far, anyway. I congratulate the Local ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Ms McNeill mentioned resources. My argument—the argument of the partnership and of many other stakeholders—is that, by employing an empty homes officer, loca...
Pauline McNeill Lab
That is a valid point. I am interested to know why the other local authorities have not made such an appointment. Perhaps the case for that needs to be made ...
James Dornan SNP
Does the member accept that the evidence from some local authorities was that it is not as complicated as some other authorities made out? Often, just the fe...
Pauline McNeill Lab
Yes. I noted that, in his opening remarks, the convener made the point that local authorities fear an adverse risk in going through a legal process. I have ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Glasgow City Council is a good example of an authority that is doing very well, with an increase in the number of CPOs being obtained. It is working well wit...
Pauline McNeill Lab
I agree that local authorities require legal expertise to inform them about and talk them through the risks, which might not be as adverse to their positions...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Andy Wightman, for a generous six minutes. 15:36
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I beg your pardon—was your request for a short six minutes?
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
A generous six minutes.
Andy Wightman Green
A generous six minutes—excellent. I thank members who have already spoken in the debate. The committee’s work on this subject has provided a fascinating ins...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will the member take an intervention?