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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 07 January 2020

07 Jan 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Empty Homes

That is a valid point. I am interested to know why the other local authorities have not made such an appointment. Perhaps the case for that needs to be made to them, too. Throughout the report, it is clear that the connection between empty homes and the regeneration of communities becomes a vital aspect of the work. Bringing empty homes back into use is a much wider issue.

I found it useful to read the committee’s report about its members’ visits, particularly to Newmilns, where they spoke to a couple who had inherited a home in the area but had trouble in selling it. The members also spoke to an owner in South Ayrshire who had a home that was unoccupied because, for four years, the flat above had serious recurring issues with water ingress, making their home uninhabitable. Those people were charged the council tax empty property levy, which indicates that there needs to be a rethink around that policy, because they had a problem to overcome. Property can be an asset but, in many cases, it can be a burden. Owners need the assistance of experts in local authorities to manage themselves out of those types of problems. That is the human element of empty homes.

The council tax levy is a crucial tool in the box, but it must be used for the purpose for which it was intended. We need a more consistent approach to its application. Councils can apply it with discretion but the current approach does not seem to be consistent. It might be deterring investment in empty properties. Scottish Land & Estates briefed the members before the debate. Some members, including Graham Simpson, have expressed concern that, although owners have on-going repair plans, the 200 per cent council tax levy was applied without any discussion. I am at a loss to understand why any local authority thinks that that is acceptable. Perhaps more work needs to be done with local authorities to make it clear that the levy is there to help bring homes back into use and is not a revenue-raising power. That does not apply to every local authority, but some of them seem to lack common sense.

Compulsory purchase orders are an essential tool in the regeneration of communities. In the previous parliamentary session, which I was not part of, the Government introduced the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015—a specific act on regenerating communities, with additional powers. It was a good piece of legislation. However, it is disappointing that, despite that commitment and a commitment in the manifesto this time round, we hear that that work will probably not be done in this parliamentary session. Indeed, we do not know whether or when it will be done under the next Administration. That point was also made by Graham Simpson. Using a compulsory purchase order is a significant legal issue for authorities, and rightly so. There should be a high bar for authorities that wish to remove property mandatorily from an owner. However, at present, the process of setting the bar is too difficult or expensive. There are clear blockages to the use of the tool.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a Local Government and Communities Committee debate on motion S5M-20280, in the name of James Dornan, on empty homes in Scotland...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to open this debate on empty homes in Scotland, on behalf of the Local Government and Communities Committee. Today’s debate reflects on the fin...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
I call Kevin Stewart. You have about 10 minutes, minister. 15:04
The Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning (Kevin Stewart) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. Happy new year to you and to everyone in the chamber. I welcome the Local Government and Communities Committee’s recent repor...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Has the minister had any discussions with the councils that are point-blank refusing to take on empty homes officers? Have they said why they will not do so?
Kevin Stewart SNP
I have talked to many councils over the past wee while, and I will outline those discussions in some depth later. I have not spoken to every council on the i...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
It is not only residential properties that are a problem in town centres; commercial properties are a problem, too. Is the planning system too inflexible to ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I do not think that there is inflexibility in the planning system. Often, local planning policies do not take account of what is happening in particular comm...
Annabelle Ewing (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP
On empty homes and the council tax surcharge, concerns were raised in the committee that some councils do not even bother to inspect the situation on site. A...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I agree with Annabelle Ewing that that is extremely discourteous. The councils that do such things look at the initiative as a revenue-raising tool, rather t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Will you wind up in a minute or so, please?
Kevin Stewart SNP
I am conscious that I have taken a lot of interventions, Presiding Officer, and there are a lot of areas to cover. I would like to cover one point relating ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Graham Simpson to speak for around nine minutes, please. 15:17
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I will do my best, Presiding Officer. I wish you and other members a very happy new year. It gives me great pleasure to kick off for the Scottish Conservati...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I, too, commend Falkirk Council for the efforts that it has made. I visited it recently in that regard. Bringing in an empty homes officer can make a real d...
Graham Simpson Con
They should certainly look to the Western Isles, but not to South Lanarkshire—maybe to Falkirk, which has been ahead on this.
Kevin Stewart SNP
Sorry—I meant Falkirk.
Graham Simpson Con
In our evidence taking, South Lanarkshire also stood out as a council that took a hard line on applying the empty homes surcharge, and it was rightly critici...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I join others in wishing members a happy new year. It is 7 January, but it still feels a bit like a new year to me—so far, anyway. I congratulate the Local ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Ms McNeill mentioned resources. My argument—the argument of the partnership and of many other stakeholders—is that, by employing an empty homes officer, loca...
Pauline McNeill Lab
That is a valid point. I am interested to know why the other local authorities have not made such an appointment. Perhaps the case for that needs to be made ...
James Dornan SNP
Does the member accept that the evidence from some local authorities was that it is not as complicated as some other authorities made out? Often, just the fe...
Pauline McNeill Lab
Yes. I noted that, in his opening remarks, the convener made the point that local authorities fear an adverse risk in going through a legal process. I have ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Glasgow City Council is a good example of an authority that is doing very well, with an increase in the number of CPOs being obtained. It is working well wit...
Pauline McNeill Lab
I agree that local authorities require legal expertise to inform them about and talk them through the risks, which might not be as adverse to their positions...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Andy Wightman, for a generous six minutes. 15:36
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I beg your pardon—was your request for a short six minutes?
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
A generous six minutes.
Andy Wightman Green
A generous six minutes—excellent. I thank members who have already spoken in the debate. The committee’s work on this subject has provided a fascinating ins...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will the member take an intervention?