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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 27 November 2019

27 Nov 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Mental Health

That is fine, but it is not what the Government promised. The Government promised that the personnel would go to

“A&E departments, GP practices, police stations and prisons”,

but so far, we have had a miserly seven and a half personnel for the police. Just think of the number of police stations and custody suites across the country, yet only seven and a half personnel have been placed there so far. That is exactly what Neil Findlay was talking about.

What on earth are we doing to support the police on the front line? What are we doing to support general practices, prisons—we had a report just this week on that very subject—or A and Es? It is all very well and fine for the cabinet secretary to come up with statistics to rebut my statistics, but until the Government recognises and accepts that it is not delivering on the strategy that it promised and that people are crying out for help, we will not move one step forward.

I move,

That the Parliament recognises that there is a mental health crisis in Scotland; considers that mental health is not currently being treated equally to physical health, but that it deserves to be treated with the same urgency; believes that this requires the creation of new services, operating 24 hours a day, seven days a week; recalls that action 15 of the Mental Health Strategy stated that 800 additional mental health workers would be added to the workforce in A&E departments, GP practices, police station custody suites and prisons; believes that this is an insufficient quantity to meet the huge unmet demand that exists, and regrets that the commitment has since been diluted, with the latest update showing that more than a third of the staff added to the workforce so far have been attributed to “other settings”, meaning that the police, A&E departments, GP practices and prisons will not get the benefits of the full contingent of additional mental health workers expected; notes recent reports of the increasing stress and mental ill-health being experienced by police officers and staff, and urges the Scottish Government to coordinate a new emergency package of support to increase and upgrade the services available to both them and staff in other public services, and further calls on the Scottish Government to publish the final allocation of staff that each key setting is currently expected to receive, and for it to set a new target for the number of mental health workers it will add in each of these settings, elevating the ambition of its 10-year strategy and getting people the treatment they need fast.

14:50  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a Scottish Liberal Democrat debate on motion S5M-03438, in the name of Willie Rennie, on mental health. 14:39
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
What I am about to tell the chamber is quite shocking; it should shake the Government to the core. I am disappointed that Humza Yousaf, the Cabinet Secretary...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
On the subject of being ashamed, is Willie Rennie ashamed that the last time that the Liberal Democrats were in power, they oversaw huge budget cuts to menta...
Willie Rennie LD
Police officers across the country will be listening to the deputy leader of the Scottish National Party. They will be furious that he has ignored every word...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will Willie Rennie give way?
Willie Rennie LD
I will in a second. Only 3 per cent of officers think that Police Scotland cares, and 35 per cent turn up for work mentally unwell. The Government should be...
Neil Findlay Lab
When they turn up at work, those very same officers have to deal with increasing numbers of mental health cases in their duties every day. The officers I was...
Willie Rennie LD
Neil Findlay is very much in touch with what is happening. He understands the pressures that our police officers are under, which is exactly what I am about ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport (Jeane Freeman) SNP
Will Willie Rennie take an intervention?
Willie Rennie LD
I will in a second. I have spoken before about how the strategy was 15 months late, which delayed critical investment. Today, I want to talk about progress ...
Jeane Freeman SNP
Will Willie Rennie give way?
Willie Rennie LD
In a second. A third of the staff hired so far have been diverted to those “other settings”. The Scottish Association for Mental Health wants clarification ...
Jeane Freeman SNP
Notwithstanding Willie Rennie’s point about psychological therapies, which I do not dismiss, eight out of 10 patients are seen within the 18-week period that...
Willie Rennie LD
That is fine, but it is not what the Government promised. The Government promised that the personnel would go to “A&E departments, GP practices, police...
The Minister for Public Health, Sport and Wellbeing (Joe FitzPatrick) SNP
Mental health is a priority for the Government. It is not a short-term priority and it is not a here today, gone tomorrow political issue. Instead, mental he...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will the minister take an intervention on that point?
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
I would like to make a little progress first, and then I will see whether I have time. The Government is taking a long-term, wide-ranging approach to mental...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I notice that the Government’s amendment attempts to delete the word “crisis” from the Liberal Democrats’ motion. Recently, the Royal College of Psychiatrist...
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
Through the policies that it is putting in place, the Scottish Government is making stringent efforts to improve the situation. There is a huge contrast betw...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
I will cover some of the points that Mr Rennie made earlier. As of October, more than 320 full-time equivalent mental health workers have been recruited and...
Willie Rennie LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
Time is tight and I want to cover one of the main areas that Willie Rennie covered. Through a strong collaborative approach across different services, the p...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I thank the Liberal Democrats for bringing this important debate to the chamber. No one in the chamber can deny the growing recognition in Scotland of the ne...
Jeane Freeman SNP
Does Ms Wells accept that, as we are halfway through the period, having half the number of community link workers that was committed to is a reasonable posit...
Annie Wells Con
We have one year left in which to recruit. We have seen the number move at such a slow pace. I just want to make sure that the targets are met, so I am looki...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank the Liberal Democrats for lodging today’s motion on mental health. I associate myself with what has been said about the frankly shocking statistics o...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Mary Fee Lab
I would like to make some progress, please. Despite the higher profile of mental health, it is still not discussed as much as, and treated on a par with, ph...
Jeane Freeman SNP
Mary Fee knows that I share her commitment to the quality of work that is done with offenders. Does she accept that the approach has to be collaborative? If ...