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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 06 November 2019

06 Nov 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Ferries

I need to make progress through my points.

By looking at a period of only nine months, the minister is painting a very small picture—I am looking at the past 12 years since this Government came to power, because that is what people are really worried about.

I will briefly mention Labour’s amendment, because it makes some valid points. The important point from Labour’s amendment is that it highlights the excellent work that the staff who work for our ferry services do. They work in extremely difficult circumstances and they make the best of the assets that are available to them—assets that frequently let them, as well as passengers, down.

Labour’s amendment also makes an important point about the importance of delivering the new vessels that were ordered—vessels 801 and 802.

When the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee asked whether the late arrival of those vessels would have a knock-on effect on fleet resilience, the answer was simple—yes. However, there is no mention of that in Mr Wheelhouse’s amendment.

So, when he responds to my comments, will the minister explain to Parliament not only why a detailed plan on the revised timetable and costings to deliver those vessels, which Derek Mackay promised would be with the Parliament by the end of October, has not materialised, but why no reason has been given for its absence? In fact, in response to today’s debate, the Government seeks to amend my motion by simply deleting it, and replacing it by saying, “There is nothing to see here. We are doing a great job. There is not a problem here”.

The Government’s defence that—as the minister said—a small proportion of cancellations was avoidable misses the point. Ten years ago, the number of cancellations on the Ardrossan to Brodick route was 86 per year; last year, that number was 328. Tell me that that is the sign of success and of a good service. On the Lochranza service, that number went from 160 to 215 in the same period. Is the weather really that different from one side of Arran to another?

The problem is that, when the weather becomes an issue, our vessels and docks are not geared up for those weather events. Having an ageing fleet means that those vessels need more maintenance than newer vessels; it means that, when they need maintenance, they have to go offline; it means vessel replacement; and it means taking a ship from one route and putting it on to another. It is not simply about mechanical breakdown; an ageing fleet has a much wider effect than that. The minister knows that we have a problem and that the status quo is not okay for our islanders, and he must know how unhappy people are about the unreliability of the fleet. If he does not know, he is either not asking or not listening.

I said that I would mention the human aspect, and I will now briefly do so. I was written to by an elderly resident who lives on Arran. On getting to the hospital, he said:

“Due to the current unreliable status of the Ardrossan ferry service, it means that I need to make the ferry crossing journey at least a day early, sometimes two”.

He has to leave two days earlier than his appointment to get there. Another resident wrote to say that they are fed up with the service, and that

“unreliability makes it harder to attract and retain the talent the island needs thereby hampering our economic growth”.

Those are their words—not mine. Even the former managing director of CalMac said that it does not have fleet resilience, and that any breakdown will have a knock-on effect on the rest of the fleet. The Government has known for years that new ferries are needed. I ask simply: where are they, minister?

I challenge the Scottish National Party members: when they rise to speak in the debate, will they accept the Government’s amendment, which simply deletes my motion, makes excuses, apologises for nothing, and buries its head in the sand? Will they stick up for their constituents or their front bench? I know who we will stick up for, and it is about time that they did the same.

I move,

That the Parliament notes its growing concern with the resilience of Scotland’s ferry network; highlights that over 82,000 delays and cancellations have occurred since 2007; believes that the combination of an ageing fleet of vessels, mechanical breakdowns and the late arrival of new operational vessels for the network have resulted in avoidable disruption to services to the detriment of Scotland’s island communities, their inhabitants, business and tourism; expresses disappointment at the absence of a long-term strategy to procure or build replacement vessels, and calls on the Scottish Government to urgently outline how it will address the Parliament’s concerns.

14:48  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-19715, in the name of Jamie Greene, on the resilience of Scotland’s ferry network. 14:41
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
The reality is that Scotland’s ferry service is under tremendous pressure: there is no doubt about that. That pressure disproportionately affects our island ...
The Minister for Energy, Connectivity and the Islands (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jamie Greene Con
If it is brief, as the minister will have an opportunity to speak after me.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Thank you. Presiding Officer, I look forward to you giving me the opportunity to speak later. Jamie Greene mentioned the statistics for the past year. Does ...
Jamie Greene Con
The minister has chosen to mention a very small number of cancellations that were due to mechanical breakdown. I will come on to his amendment in a moment, b...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jamie Greene Con
I need to make progress through my points. By looking at a period of only nine months, the minister is painting a very small picture—I am looking at the pas...
The Minister for Energy, Connectivity and the Islands (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
The Scottish Government understands the importance of safe and reliable ferry services to meet the needs of our remote and island communities. Those lifeline...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
We cannot overstate the importance of Scotland’s ferry network to our island communities. Last year, the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee carried out...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
Presiding Officer, “It is the role of the Government to provide the long term strategy for continuing to meet the needs of the communities that rely on ferr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Can I interrupt you, please, Mr Finnie? This is not a private conversation between two people. Please speak through the chair.
John Finnie Green
I will address all my remarks exclusively to you, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you.
John Finnie Green
The question is why this suddenly became an issue from 2007. I wonder why that year has been picked, because it is very peculiar, to my mind. In the REC Comm...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sure that you two can carry on that conversation over coffee later. 15:01
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I thank Jamie Greene for the debate. He is right that somebody needs to bang on about ferries, and I take considerable pride in having been that someone. I c...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Will the member give way?
Liam McArthur LD
No—the minister will have time to respond later. The internal ferry services in Orkney are already well below the minimum standard that was set out in the Go...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We come to the open debate, with speeches of four minutes, although there is time for interventions. 15:05
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I am pleased to have the opportunity to contribute to the debate. I am disappointed by the Scottish National Party’s failure to acknowledge that there are is...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
Even Liam Kerr was smiling as he made that final comment. Nine days ago, I met CalMac’s managing director, Robbie Drummond, and director of community and st...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
And there you must conclude.
Kenneth Gibson SNP
It is clear that our ferries are safe only in the hands of the SNP Government. 15:14
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
In the northern isles, we are dependent on our ferry links. I have used them since I was a child. We have seen different operators come and go; there have be...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jamie Halcro Johnston Con
The cabinet secretary will have a chance to respond later. The delay was blamed on issues around compliance with EU state aid rules. That case would have be...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I remind members that my wife works part time for CalMac. I will touch on the Scottish Government amendment, part of the Labour amendment and the Conservati...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No—I cannot hear the quote, and neither can the official reporters. Please continue.
Stuart McMillan SNP
Okay. —“the SNP government who have recklessly mismanaged this contract, wasted hundreds of millions of pounds”, blah, blah, blah. On 2 October, Mr Greene...