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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 02 October 2019

02 Oct 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
ScotRail Franchise
Hamilton, Rachael Con Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire Watch on SPTV

We all know that the performance of the service on Scotland’s railways is far from satisfactory. Delays, cancellations and mismanagement have led to commuter misery and economic damage. It is estimated that train delays cost the Scottish economy up to £230,000 a day.

In my constituency, poor performance is hindering efficient commuting, and is damaging the local economy as a result. On the Borders railway line, which many of my constituents use daily to commute to and from Edinburgh, we have seen some of the worst delays and cancellations. Just last week, we learned that ScotRail’s punctuality for August and September was at its worst since Abellio took over the franchise in 2015. That was unsurprising and all too familiar news.

The Scottish Conservatives have made it clear in the past and today that we do not want renationalisation of Scotland’s railways; that is not the solution that we seek. Labour has called for renationalisation on numerous occasions. That move would not benefit taxpayers in the slightest. It would waste time and money, it would not get people to work on time and it would not stop ordinary people being fined for picking up their children late from nursery. The idea of renationalising our railways is a mere sticking plaster.

Michael Matheson said that the Government is taking “robust action”, but I must question that. We need better accountability, and the SNP must stand up for commuters, rather than give ScotRail a continuing licence to fail. The Government must stick to its promises and hold ScotRail to account properly. Remedial plans will be effective only if the transport secretary ensures that ScotRail is committed to the improvements, and that it is questioned if it does not improve. There can be no more ministerial waivers. We need better accountability, because commuters deserve better.

We have known that driver recruitment has been a significant issue for months, but action has been taken only recently. To have a sustainable rail service, we need to ensure that Abellio ScotRail continues to assess workforce levels.

We have come to the chamber and have repeatedly been promised improvements, but little changes for the better. In relation to the Borders railway line, I was promised that once the driver training backlog was cleared we would see improvements in punctuality and to the service. There was a short-term improvement, but the service has gone back to the same old.

The Conservatives call on the Government to propose a long-term sustainable vision for Scotland’s railways beyond 2025, which would include improving the rolling stock. We need a long-term plan, so that whatever the operator, there is a clear direction in practice, and passengers can be confident that long-term improvement is on the way.

Commuters and passengers want greater transparency and accountability. Let us be clear—a public sector operator taking control of the ScotRail franchise would shift huge risks and potentially millions of pounds of spending on to the Scottish taxpayer. That increased risk would come without any guarantee of improvement in the quality of the service.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-19190, in the name of Colin Smyth, on “Don’t Extend the ScotRail Franchise”. 15:50
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is decision time for the Scottish Government. It is time for the Government to decide whether to reward failure by extending the current Abellio ScotRail ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Could the member can explain how there can be one Great Britain-wide company that would be controlled in Scotland?
Colin Smyth Lab
Mr Mason clearly does not understand how rail services actually work. The services that are delivered on the ScotRail network would continue to be devolved t...
The Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Infrastructure and Connectivity (Michael Matheson) SNP
Rail plays an essential role in the daily fabric of Scottish life, connecting communities, enabling opportunities and supporting economic prosperity. The G...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I have a very particular question to ask the cabinet secretary. Is the cabinet secretary 100 per cent confident that Abellio will meet its commitment to pay ...
Michael Matheson SNP
As part of the franchise, the company must be financially able to achieve that; otherwise, it will be in breach of the whole contract. It would be wrong for...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
The debate is already getting lively—I am quite enjoying it. I will get straight to the point, as I have only a few minutes. The Conservatives will not be su...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
I have a number of declarations to make. I am a member of the RMT parliamentary group, a vice-president of the Friends of the Far North Line and a regular ra...
Michael Matheson SNP
As I made clear, that group will meet again when we know the outcome of the Williams review and its implications for future structures. John Finnie should re...
John Finnie Green
I had hoped to get an update on where we are with CalMac Ferries. The group was launched with great gusto by the cabinet secretary’s predecessor, Humza Yousa...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
Since Abellio started running our trains, cancellations have increased year by year, skip-stopping has become part of everyday expectations, the punctuality ...
Jamie Greene Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Mike Rumbles LD
Unfortunately, I do not have time. The Liberal Democrats cannot support the Government’s amendment, because it seems, yet again, to say what the Government ...
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
We now move to the open part of the debate. 16:15
Elaine Smith (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I point out to the chamber that I have a registered interest as a member of Unite the union and that I am contributing to the debate as the convener of the R...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to take part in the debate on rail. As members will know, I am enthusiastic about train travel and, with Pauline McNeill, convene the cross-part...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
John Mason SNP
No, thank you. In recent years, I have visited a number of European cities, where I have always used the local trains and metro networks. I would argue that...
John Finnie Green
Does John Mason recognise that that publicly operated bus service turned around a failing commercial operation in East Lothian?
John Mason SNP
Yes, I am happy to recognise that. We must also consider cost. We currently subsidise the railway to the tune of some two thirds, so if I buy a ticket for £...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Like a stopped clock, even Colin Smyth is right occasionally, and his highlighting of the huge frustration that commuters, tourists and businesses feel when ...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Liam Kerr Con
I will not, as I am in my last 30 seconds. Instead of wasting time debating break clauses and models of franchise ownership, let us focus on the positive in...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
The current rail service delivery model is flawed, like a great many matters that are still under Westminster control. As we have heard, Network Rail is resp...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is customary at the outset of speeches for us to thank those who have taken the time to supply briefings to members ahead of debates. I thank the rail uni...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
We all know that the performance of the service on Scotland’s railways is far from satisfactory. Delays, cancellations and mismanagement have led to commuter...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Rachael Hamilton Con
Very quickly.
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
Neil Findlay should be very brief, because Rachael Hamilton is in her last minute.