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Meeting of the Parliament 26 June 2019

26 Jun 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Tenement Maintenance
Watt, Maureen SNP Aberdeen South and North Kincardine Watch on SPTV

I, too, am pleased to be taking part in the debate, as someone who has attended all the meetings of the working group on tenement maintenance since September last year, when I became eligible to join it, although I understand that the meetings started in March. I have been very impressed by the talent and experience of the professional members of the group and by the fact that the folk on sub-groups have progressed different strands of work quickly, effectively and efficiently. I, too, would like to thank Euan Leitch of Built Environment Forum Scotland for providing the secretariat. I would also like to thank the academics, including Douglas Robertson, for their input, and Graham Simpson, for the way in which he has chivvied along the work.

I joined the group because I love the wonderful granite tenements in my constituency and that of the minister, which look absolutely majestic in the sun but deeply grey in the rain, and which—inside and out—are in need of a great deal of TLC. It is not only those buildings that require attention; more recent council housing—and the properties that have been sold on—does, too. A large part of the 900,000 households across Scotland that fall under the Tenements (Scotland) Act 2004 occupy such buildings.

Those homes fall under various types of ownership. As well as those that are owned by the council, there are those that have owner-occupiers, long-term tenants and—sometimes—very absent landlords. As we know, it is very difficult to get agreement on doing repairs. It is also the case that many people who purchase a house do not remember that, as well as having to allow for mortgage payments, they will be required to maintain their property. Sometimes, lawyers or selling agents can be remiss in failing to tell people what is involved in buying particular properties.

In common with other MSPs, I have had a fair number of cases involving constituents—whether home owners or tenants in private or council-owned properties—whose homes have required major repair. Despite the availability of the missing share mechanism, some councils have not been as good as others in using it. I hope that many councils will learn from the City of Edinburgh Council on how things should be done in that regard.

In many cases, private owners have legitimate serious concerns about what the council says that work will cost, which can be much higher than estimates that the owners have obtained for the work. That is why owners’ associations are extremely important. I hope that, when we get down to the detail of those, we will ensure that they include all the residents in a building, including the tenants, if they wish to be involved. If all the residents feel some responsibility to maintain the block in good order, that will avoid the building falling into disrepair.

I think that owners’ associations should become a given in new blocks and that they should have sinking funds. That way, people will begin to see the benefits of having such associations with sinking funds. People in other areas will see that owners coming together on a voluntary basis—as might happen in areas such as those that Daniel Johnson mentioned or in the new town—is infinitely preferable to compulsory factoring, which can be especially fraught. I know of several instances in which compulsory factoring has been fraught, especially in relation to ground maintenance.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-17892, in the name of Kevin Stewart, on the working group on tenement maintenance. 15:50
The Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning (Kevin Stewart) SNP
I welcome the publication earlier this month of the final recommendations report of the working group on maintenance of tenement scheme property. I commend t...
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
The minister has highlighted challenges, such as the sinking fund. Does he accept that there are plenty of examples around the world of such arrangements tha...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I have not said that it is impossible, and we need to look at what has happened elsewhere to get that absolutely right. I will respond in depth in the autumn...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank the Government for giving up its debating time to debate this issue; the Minister for Europe, Ben Macpherson, who was the initial convener of the wor...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I, too, begin by reeling off a list of thanks. I thank my fellow members of the cross-party working group. Taking part in such a group has been genuinely ref...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must close now.
Daniel Johnson Lab
I will close shortly. For those reasons—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Now.
Daniel Johnson Lab
I welcome the proposals and look forward to the minister’s statement in the autumn.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you. I am glad that you understand the word “now”. I call Andy Wightman, who will be followed by Stuart McMillan. The open debate speeches are four min...
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
As other members have done, I thank the minister for making time for the debate and the Scottish Government for providing some critical funding that oiled th...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I thank Graham Simpson for chairing the working group, and Ben Macpherson for doing so beforehand. The work of the group has been a useful exercise and, as o...
Gordon Lindhurst (Lothian) (Con) Con
As a member of the cross-party working group, I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in the debate. I begin, as others did, by thanking my colleagues—...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
There is no Latin in my speech, Presiding Officer. If you hear any, it is there by mistake. First, I thank the members of the working group—Daniel Johnson, ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am afraid that you cannot. I want to leave time for the statement on transvaginal mesh ; I do not want to eat into that time.
Pauline McNeill Lab
That is fine. 16:27
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to take part in the debate to mark the launch of this report. As others have said, the subject is difficult and will not be easy to sort, but we...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
It will come as no surprise to members that I am speaking in today’s debate on tenement maintenance, given that I am a member for Glasgow. Glasgow is famed ...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I, too, am pleased to be taking part in the debate, as someone who has attended all the meetings of the working group on tenement maintenance since September...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must end there—thank you. I call Daniel Johnson to close for Labour. 16:39
Daniel Johnson Lab
There have been a great number of speeches, and it is notable how much agreement there has been in the chamber. I do not propose to rehearse any of the argum...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank the Government and the minister for making time for the debate, and I am grateful for all the contributions that have come from across the chamber. ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Kevin Stewart to close for the Government.
Kevin Stewart SNP
How long have I got, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Six minutes. 16:47
Kevin Stewart SNP
I am grateful to all the members who have taken part in today’s debate. The common ground on the points at issue is reflected in the joint motion and the con...