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Meeting of the Parliament 19 June 2019

19 Jun 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Planning (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3 (Day 2)

I welcome Graham Simpson to his new role as spokesperson for the First Minister.

Ahead of consideration of the bill at stage 2, I conducted a consultation on the proposal to enable local authorities to acquire land at its existing use value—a power that they had from 1947 until 1959 and which would strip out a substantial part of the profit that accrues to landowners and developers from the uplift in land values.

The developer Murray Estates, which is developing a large area in the west of Edinburgh, is a good example. Having secured planning consent, the company informed me in a meeting that it would simply sell the land, pocketing a very tidy profit though the granting of a public good—a planning consent.

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I know that the Government is interested in the concept, but it has had 18 months to bring forward proposals. Instead, it has kicked the idea into the long grass and missed what might be the only legislative opportunity for some time to introduce such a power.

The power as envisaged—I had an amendment on it at stage 2, which I did not press because Graham Simpson’s amendment had got into the bill—would apply only in masterplan consent areas. It was a very limited power. We intentionally restricted it to enable it to be experimental, to an extent, and to avoid any of the bigger problems that might arise if we applied it across the piece. We focused the power on restricted areas and sought to allow councils to explore the more plan-led and public-led development model that has provided so much success in countries such as Germany.

We oppose the removal from the bill of proposed new section 54CA of the Town and Country Planning (Scotland) Act 1997 and we will vote against amendment 112. We will support amendments 212 and 215.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is the continuation of stage 3 proceedings on the Planning (Scotland) Bill. In dealing with the amendments, members should have the...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
It feels as though I have never been away. Amendment 112 removes land value capture from the bill. It was introduced by an amendment that I lodged at stage ...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
Amendments 212 and 215 require ministers, within 18 months of the bill receiving royal assent, to lay regulations to facilitate land value capture. Legislati...
Graham Simpson Con
I am not sure whether Alex Rowley was in the chamber when I asked the First Minister about that. She said that there would be a full response to the Scottish...
Alex Rowley Lab
It is interesting that we seem to have a coalition between the Scottish National Party and the Tories to block radical proposals on land reform. I know who t...
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
I welcome Graham Simpson to his new role as spokesperson for the First Minister. Ahead of consideration of the bill at stage 2, I conducted a consultation o...
The Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning (Kevin Stewart) SNP
As I have consistently made clear, we as the Government are interested in the concept of land value capture or sharing and we will explore how land value upl...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Graham Simpson to wind up on the group and say whether he wishes to press amendment 112.
Graham Simpson Con
I urge the minister to make a statement on the subject soon after the recess, once we have passed the bill, as we need to get moving on it. There is cross-pa...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment 112 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. As this is the first division of the day, there will be a five-minute suspension while I call all members to the chamber. 14:35 Me...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the division on amendment 112. For Crawford, Bruce (Stirling) (SNP) Cunningham, Roseanna (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) Ewing, Fer...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division is: For 88, Against 31, Abstentions 0. Amendment 112 agreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 17 is on masterplan consent areas. Amendment 13, in the name of Andy Wightman, is grouped with amendments 125 and 126.
Andy Wightman Green
Masterplan consent areas are an area of the bill that has been broadly welcomed, although the exact impact remains to be seen. I will first address my amend...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Masterplan consent areas are a new way in which planning authorities can take a proactive place-making approach and provide consent. Mr Wightman has argued t...
Andy Wightman Green
I am disappointed with the minister’s response on amendment 13. I just do not understand why, if up to five houses can be built in some of the most pressured...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment 13 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. For Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Beamish, Claudia (South Scotland) (Lab) Bibb...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division is: For 33, Against 89, Abstentions 0. Amendment 13 disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 18 is on technical/regulations. Amendment 124, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 128, 134, 135, 151 and 153 to 155.
Kevin Stewart SNP
The amendments in this group are mainly technical; they will remove duplication and tidy up wording. Just one of them—amendment 155—has a little more substan...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment 125 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Art...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division is: For 94, Against 27, Abstentions 0. Amendment 125 agreed to. Amendment 126 moved—Kevin Stewart.
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment 126 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Art...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division is: For 95, Against 27, Abstentions 0. Amendment 126 agreed to. Section 11A—Culturally significant zones Amendment 127 moved—Ke...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment 127 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Art...