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Meeting of the Parliament 13 June 2019

13 Jun 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Restricted Roads (20 mph Speed Limit) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Mountain, Edward Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I am afraid that I have already taken two interventions. [Interruption.] I think that it is fair to allow the committee convener to try to put the committee’s view across without questioning him on it, as members will have an opportunity to question each committee member.

As I said, Police Scotland is focused on enforcing limits on higher speed roads. That might not be viewed as an impediment to compliance with 20mph limits. However, the committee was of the view that the proposals in the bill would be unlikely to result in any change to Police Scotland’s approach to enforcing speed limits.

On the issue of public awareness, the committee heard that a detailed, concerted campaign would be required to raise awareness of the proposed reduced speed limit, should the bill be passed. We learned that such a campaign would need to be more extensive and sustained than the bill proposes. Overall, it would need to create a major shift in the cultural understanding of why the speed limits exist, with the aim of increasing compliance rates.

The committee also found that the existing processes for local authorities to implement 20mph speed limits are cumbersome and resource intensive. We are of the view that those processes should be more straightforward to make implementation easier. Consequently, we welcomed the Scottish Government’s current exercise with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and the Society of Chief Officers of Transportation in Scotland to consider ways in which those processes can be simplified and improved. The cabinet secretary’s response to the committee’s report does not provide any further information on that exercise. I ask him, on behalf of the committee, to ensure that the committee is kept updated on the progress and outcomes of the review.

The committee also heard about wide-ranging uncertainties around the estimated costs and savings for the bill, leading the committee to conclude that the financial memorandum is not robust. Costs that were not fully recognised include the following: assessments of affected roads; local authorities wishing to retain roads as 30mph zones; and establishing the total number of restricted roads that would be subject to the bill’s proposals, given that this number is not known. There was also no estimation of the costs related to staff and resources in the police force and criminal justice system or of Scottish Government costs for the trunk road network.

The cabinet secretary has clarified in his response that the Scottish Government would have to provide additional financial support to local authorities if the bill were passed. However, that financial support would have to come from existing transport budgets, potentially diverting resources away from existing activities.

Finally, the committee also noted the very clear message given by the Scottish Government throughout the stage 1 process that a great deal of further consideration to the process, impact and consequences of a nationwide default 20mph limit on restricted roads would be required before it would be in a position to fully support the bill.

The key point for the committee has been to determine whether the bill’s proposal to introduce a 20mph speed limit on all restricted roads in Scotland by default is the most effective way to deliver a significant increase in 20mph zones. Our majority view is that the default approach proposed in the bill is not appropriate, as it does not give local authorities the flexibility to devise 20mph limits that they consider appropriate for their areas.

As a result, the committee is unable to recommend the general principles of the Restricted Roads (20 mph Speed Limit) (Scotland) Bill to the Parliament. I look forward to hearing other members’ contributions to the debate.

15:18  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-17660, in the name of Mark Ruskell, on the Restricted Roads (20 mph Speed Limit) (Scotland) Bill. 15:01
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
Since devolution, there have been choices for the Parliament to make, in order to break from the status quo, be bold and lead the change. From the smoking ba...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Mark Ruskell Green
Yes, if I can get the time back.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Yes, you can. There is time in hand in this debate. I can be flexible, which is good for everybody.
Liam Kerr Con
Does the member not concede that that only happens if the impact of the bill is, as he wishes, to reduce the speed limit in practice?
Mark Ruskell Green
That is a basic question and I point the member to the extensive policy memorandum, which details all the studies that show the kind of speed reduction that ...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am pleased to contribute to the debate as convener of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee. The committee’s stage 1 report, which was published on...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
Will the member give way?
Edward Mountain Con
I am prepared to do so, if I can get the time back.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I have already said that there is time in hand for everybody, so do not be feart.
Edward Mountain Con
In giving way, though, I ask the member to remember that I am reflecting the views of the committee, and will do so carefully.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You have been told, Mr Finnie.
John Finnie Green
I am grateful to the member for taking the intervention. I absolutely accept that that is what the committee convener will do, but will he also point out tha...
Edward Mountain Con
Indeed, and as I make progress through my speech, I will of course try to reflect the difference of opinion between members. On the issue of public health o...
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
Will the member give way?
Edward Mountain Con
I am prepared to do so, on the basis that I outlined earlier.
Andy Wightman Green
The member’s points about compliance and commencement can be addressed as the bill proceeds through Parliament. Does he agree that they are not germane to th...
Edward Mountain Con
I am sure that other members of the committee will comment on that. However, what we heard from Police Scotland is that it does not prioritise enforcement of...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Will the member give way?
Edward Mountain Con
I am afraid that I have already taken two interventions. Interruption. I think that it is fair to allow the committee convener to try to put the committee’s ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Infrastructure and Connectivity (Michael Matheson) SNP
First, I thank Mark Ruskell for his member’s bill, which has generated a wide-ranging national debate on 20mph speed limits. I have followed the committee’s...
Andy Wightman Green
The cabinet secretary refers to a “blanket approach”, which reflects the committee’s language about “a one-size-fits-all approach”. Surely, as a matter of pr...
Michael Matheson SNP
The committee’s point was about compliance and effective operation. We must have a default speed limit on which we can get greater levels of compliance. The ...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
The cabinet secretary suggests that we should not pass laws unless we are absolutely sure that they will be enforced. Did he take that view when Scotland dec...
Michael Matheson SNP
As I have made clear, the Scottish Government supports the introduction of 20mph zones. However, we do not support a one-size-fits-all blanket approach to al...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Michael Matheson SNP
Let me make progress. To achieve the benefits that 20mph speed limits bring, particularly for road safety, we need to ensure compliance with them. Police Sc...
Daniel Johnson Lab
Will the cabinet secretary please explain why on earth a road whose design is acceptable for a 30mph limit is not appropriate for a 20mph limit? I do not und...
Michael Matheson SNP
In its report, the committee highlights the fact that design features are key factors that influence the speed at which people drive on roads. That is why, f...