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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 15 May 2019

15 May 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Treatment Time Guarantee

I, too, extend my thanks to our NHS staff, who work tirelessly to improve our health—too frequently doing so in an extremely pressured environment.

I welcome the fact that we are debating the treatment time guarantee. However, the Green amendment was not selected for debate, which in this instance is particularly frustrating, because neither the motion nor the other amendments outline the problem and potential solutions in a way that the Greens feel would be of greatest benefit to patients.

Alex Cole-Hamilton is right to have described the severity of the problem, but I do not agree that a letter to patients, which has the potential to make them feel like another statistic, is an adequate response.

I appreciate the proposed actions that are set out in the cabinet secretary’s amendment, but I regret that it would delete entirely the text of Alex Cole-Hamilton’s motion.

I agree with the contents of Monica Lennon’s amendment and I agree with Miles Briggs's amendment, but I cannot square his party’s commitment to a great tax cut for the wealthiest people with increased funding for the NHS.

Shorter waiting times can reduce patient anxiety, improve patients’ quality of life and improve clinical outcomes. We are all in agreement that the sooner a patient can access treatment, the better. That is why waiting times are important. However, as we know, there are considerable workforce pressures across NHS Scotland, which is treating patients who have increasingly complex conditions and multiple morbidities.

Of course, Brexit will not help. The British Medical Association has repeatedly raised concerns about the impact of Brexit on the health workforce. I am concerned that, if we cannot recruit sufficient numbers, the onus for improving waiting times will be placed on the existing workforce. The Scottish Government’s waiting times improvement plan states that it will

“Encourage more capacity ... by working with Staff Side and Employers to reduce sickness absence rates with a focus on staff health and wellbeing”.

A recent BMA survey showed that 91 per cent of the doctors who responded were working more than their allotted hours, so I would argue that many NHS workers are already working over capacity.

People who work in the NHS must be able to take a day off when they need to because of their own ill health. It is, of course, hugely upsetting and disappointing for patients when the treatment time guarantee is not adhered to, but we must, because they are working incredibly hard, also ensure that we avoid making staff feel that they have failed.

Opposition parties are right to criticise the Government, but it cannot be beyond us all to find a way forward with constructive steps that can be taken to bolster our struggling health service. The Scottish Government needs to be honest about what level of service the NHS in Scotland can realistically provide, given workforce pressures and current funding.

In its 2018 report, Audit Scotland said:

“The NHS in Scotland is not in a financially sustainable position. NHS boards are struggling to break even, relying increasingly on Scottish Government loans and one-off savings.”

It recommended that the Scottish Government, NHS boards and integration authorities

“work together to develop a clearer understanding of demand ... and capacity ... within primary and secondary care”

and

“publish clear and easy to understand information ... including how much funding was provided, what it was spent on, and the impact”

that it had. I urge the cabinet secretary to take that on board and to hold a national conversation on the NHS—one that would be far broader than the one that Miles Briggs outlined. It should cover what we all expect from the NHS and how much we are all willing to pay to meet those expectations.

Missed targets are a symptom of wider issues, so placing more pressure on boards and staff to meet targets will not solve the problem. Let us ensure that health boards have the resources that they require and that there is a greater focus on the preventative health agenda in order to lessen that strain, which will enable us to meet the treatment time guarantee.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-17281, in the name of Alex Cole-Hamilton, on the treatment time guarantee. 14:40
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I want to start by thanking the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport for the time that she has given to me on this subject. I know that she agrees with me ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before I call the minister, I want to say that it is disappointing when members are not in the chamber at the beginning of a debate to which they wish to con...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport (Jeane Freeman) SNP
I welcome this debate on what is an important issue for patients across Scotland. There can surely be no doubt that I have been very clear from the outset t...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank the Liberal Democrats for using their business time for this important debate. No one can be in any doubt that, since Nicola Sturgeon and the Scotti...
Jeane Freeman SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Miles Briggs Con
A brief one.
Jeane Freeman SNP
Does the member accept that the 31-day target is being met? In his amendment, the member calls for additional resources for the NHS. Will he explain how we w...
Miles Briggs Con
I had hoped that the debate would rise beyond such comments. The fact is that the Government has been given £2 billion in additional health resources. Today’...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for securing this important debate, for making an excellent speech and for telling us about his constituent, Jane Ross. The treat...
The Minister for Mental Health (Clare Haughey) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Monica Lennon Lab
I will, if I have time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
If you take an intervention, you will not get your time back, so I will leave it to the member to decide.
Monica Lennon Lab
I will take the intervention.
Clare Haughey SNP
I thank Monica Lennon for taking the intervention. I clarify that the guarantee in the Patient Rights (Scotland) Act 2011, which was voted on and decided by ...
Monica Lennon Lab
We will get to the point about what the law actually says, but the main point is that we have just heard that 190,000 patients have been let down. That is a ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sorry. We are tight on time. That is what happens in these short debates. It is what the Parliamentary Bureau agreed, so members will just have to live ...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
I, too, extend my thanks to our NHS staff, who work tirelessly to improve our health—too frequently doing so in an extremely pressured environment. I welcom...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. Speeches should be kept tightly to four minutes, please. 15:10
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
In anticipation of the debate, I looked up the definition of the word “guarantee” in several dictionaries. One defined it as “a formal assurance (typically ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Mike Rumbles LD
I would love to do so, but unfortunately I do not have time. The Scottish Government’s own NHS Scotland resource allocation committee formula still underfun...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Rumbles. A wee correction—I did not give you four minutes; it was the Parliamentary Bureau, and Parliament then voted for the four minutes. I a...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
We are again in the chamber, discussing healthcare in our NHS. At the outset, as always, I put on the record my thanks to our incredibly skilled and competen...
Emma Harper SNP
I am not going to take an intervention. We have four minutes for speeches because that is what the Liberal Democrats chose. Surgical procedures that do not ...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I thank the Liberal Democrats for allowing us to debate the subject this afternoon. In the short time that I have, I want to focus on waiting times in NHS Hi...
Clare Haughey SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Edward Mountain Con
I will take an intervention from the cabinet secretary, but not from you, I am afraid. Patients feel let down, and clinical staff feel the burden of respons...
Jeane Freeman SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Edward Mountain Con
I will. I am always delighted to.