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Meeting of the Parliament 15 May 2019

15 May 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Treatment Time Guarantee

I thank the Liberal Democrats for using their business time for this important debate.

No one can be in any doubt that, since Nicola Sturgeon and the Scottish National Party Government introduced the patient treatment time guarantee in 2011, patients and their families have been let down. I believe that it is also important to look at the wider patient treatment targets that the Scottish Government is failing to meet, which I outline in my amendment.

This is mental health awareness week. I welcome the positive campaigns to raise awareness and the need to tackle the stigma that still exists around mental health. However, the question that I am asked again and again is what the point is in trying to encourage people to come forward as they will often be failed when they seek help.

Alex Cole-Hamilton, Alison Johnstone and I represent Lothian. I am sure that they, too, will be acutely aware of the unacceptable waiting times for psychological treatment and the failure to meet the child and adolescent mental health services waiting times for our constituents. I am sure that I am not the only MSP who has parents at my advice surgeries desperately trying to navigate the CAMHS system, telling me how they have been told that the waiting time is more than a year for children and young people and two years for adults. I have to say that the parents and families whom I represent are way beyond wanting an apology from SNP ministers—they want action. Those parents and families feel abandoned by a Government that has been in office for 12 years. The situation in Lothian is getting worse, and mental health waiting times here in the capital are now beyond crisis levels, with the situation showing no sign of improvement.

Parents in Lothian have been told by general practitioners to go private if they want to access support for their children, as NHS Lothian clearly does not have the capacity to see them. Children who are in desperate need of support are being told that there is a wait of more than a year. In some cases, as the Health and Sport Committee heard recently, parents are being told that their child would likely be seen earlier if they were self-harming. Scotland’s young people—our future—are being failed.

As the co-chair of the Parliament’s cross-party group on cancer, I regularly hear about the mental health impact that suspected cancer brings to individuals, including weeks and months waiting and not knowing, sleepless nights and unimaginable stress. The latest cancer waiting times show that only 82.9 per cent of patients in Scotland with suspected cancer and an urgent referral started treatment in 62 days. As Cancer Research UK stated,

“These figures show a service under huge strain with too many patients waiting too long.”

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-17281, in the name of Alex Cole-Hamilton, on the treatment time guarantee. 14:40
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I want to start by thanking the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport for the time that she has given to me on this subject. I know that she agrees with me ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before I call the minister, I want to say that it is disappointing when members are not in the chamber at the beginning of a debate to which they wish to con...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport (Jeane Freeman) SNP
I welcome this debate on what is an important issue for patients across Scotland. There can surely be no doubt that I have been very clear from the outset t...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank the Liberal Democrats for using their business time for this important debate. No one can be in any doubt that, since Nicola Sturgeon and the Scotti...
Jeane Freeman SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Miles Briggs Con
A brief one.
Jeane Freeman SNP
Does the member accept that the 31-day target is being met? In his amendment, the member calls for additional resources for the NHS. Will he explain how we w...
Miles Briggs Con
I had hoped that the debate would rise beyond such comments. The fact is that the Government has been given £2 billion in additional health resources. Today’...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for securing this important debate, for making an excellent speech and for telling us about his constituent, Jane Ross. The treat...
The Minister for Mental Health (Clare Haughey) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Monica Lennon Lab
I will, if I have time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
If you take an intervention, you will not get your time back, so I will leave it to the member to decide.
Monica Lennon Lab
I will take the intervention.
Clare Haughey SNP
I thank Monica Lennon for taking the intervention. I clarify that the guarantee in the Patient Rights (Scotland) Act 2011, which was voted on and decided by ...
Monica Lennon Lab
We will get to the point about what the law actually says, but the main point is that we have just heard that 190,000 patients have been let down. That is a ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sorry. We are tight on time. That is what happens in these short debates. It is what the Parliamentary Bureau agreed, so members will just have to live ...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
I, too, extend my thanks to our NHS staff, who work tirelessly to improve our health—too frequently doing so in an extremely pressured environment. I welcom...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. Speeches should be kept tightly to four minutes, please. 15:10
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
In anticipation of the debate, I looked up the definition of the word “guarantee” in several dictionaries. One defined it as “a formal assurance (typically ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Mike Rumbles LD
I would love to do so, but unfortunately I do not have time. The Scottish Government’s own NHS Scotland resource allocation committee formula still underfun...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Rumbles. A wee correction—I did not give you four minutes; it was the Parliamentary Bureau, and Parliament then voted for the four minutes. I a...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
We are again in the chamber, discussing healthcare in our NHS. At the outset, as always, I put on the record my thanks to our incredibly skilled and competen...
Emma Harper SNP
I am not going to take an intervention. We have four minutes for speeches because that is what the Liberal Democrats chose. Surgical procedures that do not ...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I thank the Liberal Democrats for allowing us to debate the subject this afternoon. In the short time that I have, I want to focus on waiting times in NHS Hi...
Clare Haughey SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Edward Mountain Con
I will take an intervention from the cabinet secretary, but not from you, I am afraid. Patients feel let down, and clinical staff feel the burden of respons...
Jeane Freeman SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Edward Mountain Con
I will. I am always delighted to.