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Meeting of the Parliament 14 May 2019

14 May 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
The Place Principle
McMillan, Stuart SNP Greenock and Inverclyde Watch on SPTV

I welcome this debate and the dialogue on the place principle. Listening to some colleagues in the chamber, one would think that life was perfect before the SNP Government came to power in 2007. Life certainly was not perfect for many people—[Interruption.] It was not perfect for many people in my community, or in the community that Mr Findlay represents.

The collective focus on supporting inclusive economic growth and creating places that are successful and sustainable is not just a well-intentioned target but a commonsense approach. That collaborative approach to designing the principle is welcome, but it should have happened many years ago.

Thankfully, the silo mentality of working in some parts of the public sector started to change some years ago, and that has certainly moved forward since 2007. Today, we heard the statement from Roseanna Cunningham, our Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform, highlighting again the issue of the climate emergency that we face. The cabinet secretary said that the Scottish Government—the cabinet secretaries and ministers—will be looking at all current activities to examine what we need to do to help our climate. Whether it is on climate change, health and social care partnerships or the place principle, such work can only improve our country and the opportunities for our population.

The various funds that are available, such as the town centre fund, the regeneration capital grant fund, the vacant and derelict land fund, the investing in communities fund and the Scottish partnership for regeneration in urban centres fund are important in trying to bring about successful and sustainable places.

I chair the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on visual impairment, and a number of years ago Guide Dogs Scotland offered me the chance to undertake a walk with a guide dog while I was blindfolded. The walk, which took place in Greenock from Clyde Square to Cathcart Street, was an emotional and challenging activity, but it also ensured that I became more aware of the built environment in my community. After the event, when speaking to a local reporter, I was asked whether I now wanted the local authority to demolish it and build a more accessible environment. Clearly, that would not have been realistic, but what is realistic is for future investments to be undertaken collaboratively and with accessibility in mind, considering every member of our society. There is also the element of retrofitting, or improvements that can be made to the existing infrastructure in our towns, cities and rural communities. Let us face it—many carbuncles have been built over the years the length and breadth of Scotland. In the past, certainly, planning was not perfect and some of those things were put up in our communities.

In my constituency, many organisations already operate with the sense of engagement that is part of the place principle. Your Voice and Inverclyde Carers Centre are hugely important in getting that message across to the elected politicians. I can think of three other examples: the Belville Community Garden Trust at the east end of Greenock, the Inverkip Community Initiative hub and the Inverclyde Association for Mental Health, which has the Broomhill gardens and community hub. Those three projects were led by the communities and fashioned that change; they got the politicians involved to make sure that positive change happened in those communities.

There is still a journey to take, but I welcome the place principle and the sense of empowerment that it will provide to our communities.

16:23  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-17265, in the name of Aileen Campbell, on adopting the place principle. 15:28
The Cabinet Secretary for Communities and Local Government (Aileen Campbell) SNP
I am delighted to open this debate on the place principle. Fundamentally, it is an approach that seeks to ensure that we, as policy makers, make better decis...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Back in the real world, communities are experiencing cuts to youth work and cuts to environmental services, roads are in a poorer condition, places are more ...
Aileen Campbell SNP
Back in the real world, we have the collaboration and co-operation of COSLA and a host of different partners—not forgetting, most importantly, communities th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before we hear Mr Rowley’s intervention, I say to members that there is time for interventions—you will get your time back.
Alex Rowley Lab
I do not know whether the cabinet secretary is trying to rewrite the Christie report, because one of its key messages was about preventative spend: it said t...
Aileen Campbell SNP
I mentioned the need for a “preventative” approach. I am certainly not seeking to rewrite the Christie report. I totally subscribe to the Christie principles...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
This morning, I read the weekly briefing from Unison Scotland, my trade union, and I noted that, on this debate, it says the following: “The place principle...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
Is Mr Rowley suggesting that potholes have happened only under austerity?
Alex Rowley Lab
I am saying that we need look only at the evidence of the cuts to council budgets over the past decade to see the impact that austerity is having and, theref...
Aileen Campbell SNP
The debate is about trying to make better use of the resources and public funds that we have in order to make good on the Christie principles and on the noti...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before you respond, Mr Rowley, I remind the cabinet secretary not to use the term “you” and to speak through the chair, please.
Aileen Campbell SNP
I apologise, Presiding Officer.
Alex Rowley Lab
The Labour manifesto “For the Many Not the Few” sets out a plan for £70 billion-odd of investment coming to Scotland over the next decade. That is the kind o...
Michelle Ballantyne (South Scotland) (Con) Con
In 2012, when I was appointed to my local council’s planning committee, I was given a publication entitled “Placemaking and design” which, I was informed, co...
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
I thank the Scottish Government for bringing the topic to debate this afternoon. The Greens are happy to support the motion, and we support the place princip...
Neil Findlay Lab
How many of the people who come to Mr Wightman’s surgeries, or email or write to him, talk about the cuts to local government? Is it a significant part of hi...
Andy Wightman Green
Yes. People come to me talking about the pressures faced by local government and the cuts that are taking place across the country. I agree—it is in a bad pl...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
It is a pleasure to speak in the debate, which, judging by the contributions so far, will be fairly positive. As every member will agree, Scotland’s communi...
Gordon Lindhurst (Lothian) (Con) Con
I, too, welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. Our happiness and wellbeing depend to a great extent on the place in which we live. We should have p...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
I will highlight excellent community-led work that is taking place in my constituency. It has been a privilege to support such efforts in the communities tha...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I am sure that many of us love the places that we live in; we are connected to them and to the people who live around us. Across Scotland, communities have o...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I welcome this debate and the dialogue on the place principle. Listening to some colleagues in the chamber, one would think that life was perfect before the ...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
We all agree that the place principle is a good one but that it probably needs more work in practice. As a councillor in Edinburgh, I was very aware of the s...
Stuart McMillan SNP
If Mr Balfour reads the Official Report, he will see that I said that there is still a journey to be undertaken but I welcome the progress that has been made.
Jeremy Balfour Con
I think the difference is that I am a pessimist and Stuart McMillan is an optimist. I fully relate to what he said. Something that we all—in both the Scot...
Willie Coffey (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) SNP
There is good news from East Ayrshire, at least, which I hope might bring a smile to the faces of some of the gloomsters in the chamber. When I read the bri...
Angela Constance (Almond Valley) (SNP) SNP
In advance of today’s debate, I took the time to read the Scottish Government’s three-page factsheet that explains the place principle. The nub of it is that...
Alex Rowley Lab
I have made it clear that there is nothing in the Government’s motion that I could disagree with. However, sometimes there is a sense that the Parliament is ...
Willie Coffey SNP
I invite Alex Rowley and his colleagues to come down to East Ayrshire and see the process working in practice. He would be very welcome to come and see it.