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Meeting of the Parliament 14 May 2019

14 May 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
The Place Principle
Rowley, Alex Lab Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

The Labour manifesto “For the Many Not the Few” sets out a plan for £70 billion-odd of investment coming to Scotland over the next decade. That is the kind of investment that we need. I am happy to work with other parties. I know that the Conservative Party supports austerity, but I am happy to work with other parties to look for investment. That is the level of ambition that we need for Scotland, and that is the ambition that John McDonnell, as shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer, is putting forward in that manifesto.

Let us not live in a bubble in this place. The reality is that, in every community across Scotland, problems exist with potholes, pavements and cuts to local services. We cannot gloss over the impacts of austerity: nor should we, for austerity is not an economic choice, but a political choice that is supported by politicians here. The late Martin McGuinness said:

“Austerity is devastating ... communities. The working poor, public sector workers, the disabled and the vulnerable are the hardest hit by this bankrupt and ideologically driven policy.”

The place principle is a useful framework that recognises that communities must be central to decision making, and that the most sustainable and beneficial outcomes are achieved when policy and practice integrate health, housing, environment, transport, community and spatial planning. However, let us not use such frameworks to mask what is really going on, because if we do, the only people whom we will be fooling will be ourselves—not the communities that we represent.

The Jimmy Reid Foundation and UNISON report “The Contribution Local Government Makes to our Communities and the Local Economy” is now a year old, but it is more relevant than ever. It states that changes such as cutting library and leisure centre opening hours

“may on the face of it seem an incremental change”

but

“these changes can prevent some individuals in communities accessing valuable services. Poorer households are more reliant on a range of public services so feel the cumulative impacts of multiple small cuts. For those on low incomes, especially, these small changes may have a sizeable impact and present significant or outright barriers to accessing services”.

An analysis by Labour that was published in December found that there has been a £22 million reduction in spending on libraries over the past six years. According to official figures, a total of 69 libraries have closed across Scotland since 2011, including 30 in 2017, which was up from 15 in the previous year. The impact on cultural services has been far reaching, with more than £5 million having been cut from funding for museums and galleries. Almost £20 million has been cut from budgets for sports facilities, while more than £30 million has been cut from budgets for community parks and open spaces.

In Fife, many really good projects that were built around the principle of social prescribing have disappeared as the funding has dried up. The place principle will never translate into meaningful community participation if cuts are made not only to the services that people rely on but to the services that enrich their lives and make them feel part of the community.

A recent survey by Unison found that council workers identified a lack of front-line staff as being one of the biggest challenges that face Scottish local authorities. More than two thirds of those who were questioned said that local residents did not receive the help that they needed when they needed it, and 51 per cent were not confident that vulnerable people were safe and cared for.

During the passage of the Planning (Scotland) Bill, the Royal Town Planning Institute Scotland said that between 2009 and 2016, local authorities lost, on average, 23 per cent of planning staff, and that over the same period, planning services’ budgets were cut by an average of 32.5 per cent.

I accept that people genuinely want to use the place principle to make the changes that are necessary, but I say to members who are present in the chamber that if they do not recognise the impact of failed Tory austerity on communities in Scotland, they will not wake up to what needs to happen, and to the levels of investment that need to go into our country in order to ensure that we achieve the ambitions that the cabinet secretary has set out.

I move amendment S5M-17265.2, to insert at end:

“; recognises the negative impact of austerity on local services and local communities, and understands that a more joined-up, collaborative and participative approach to services requires sufficient resources to empower local people and those working in local services.”

15:51  
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-17265, in the name of Aileen Campbell, on adopting the place principle. 15:28
The Cabinet Secretary for Communities and Local Government (Aileen Campbell) SNP
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Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
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Aileen Campbell SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before we hear Mr Rowley’s intervention, I say to members that there is time for interventions—you will get your time back.
Alex Rowley Lab
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Aileen Campbell SNP
I mentioned the need for a “preventative” approach. I am certainly not seeking to rewrite the Christie report. I totally subscribe to the Christie principles...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
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Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
Is Mr Rowley suggesting that potholes have happened only under austerity?
Alex Rowley Lab
I am saying that we need look only at the evidence of the cuts to council budgets over the past decade to see the impact that austerity is having and, theref...
Aileen Campbell SNP
The debate is about trying to make better use of the resources and public funds that we have in order to make good on the Christie principles and on the noti...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before you respond, Mr Rowley, I remind the cabinet secretary not to use the term “you” and to speak through the chair, please.
Aileen Campbell SNP
I apologise, Presiding Officer.
Alex Rowley Lab
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Michelle Ballantyne (South Scotland) (Con) Con
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Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
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Neil Findlay Lab
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Andy Wightman Green
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James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
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Gordon Lindhurst (Lothian) (Con) Con
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Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
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Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
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Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
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Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
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Stuart McMillan SNP
If Mr Balfour reads the Official Report, he will see that I said that there is still a journey to be undertaken but I welcome the progress that has been made.
Jeremy Balfour Con
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Angela Constance (Almond Valley) (SNP) SNP
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Willie Coffey SNP
I invite Alex Rowley and his colleagues to come down to East Ayrshire and see the process working in practice. He would be very welcome to come and see it.