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Meeting of the Parliament 03 April 2019

03 Apr 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Health Education
Stewart, David Lab Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I congratulate the Conservative group on selecting health education as its topic for debate this afternoon. I agree with the bulk of Brian Whittle’s opening speech, which stressed the importance of nutrition, not least in tackling the pandemic of obesity and type 2 diabetes. In my remarks, I want to focus on the preventative health agenda and look at the bigger picture—the role that austerity and health inequality play in Scottish health education.

Last year, as joint convener of the cross-party group on diabetes, I was invited to visit young people at Charleston academy in Inverness to talk about diabetes. The class that I spoke to had an in-home app that could read the bar codes of supermarket products and translate a food’s composition into the amount of sugar that it contained. As an experiment, the young people scanned a large box of Jaffa cakes; it contained 32 lumps of sugar, which is, of course, a major contributor to the development of type 2 diabetes.

As we have heard from Brian Whittle and the minister, being classed as obese or overweight is a significant contributing factor to developing type 2 diabetes. With our obesity crisis, it is—unfortunately—no surprise that the figures on the condition make for bleak reading: over 257,000 people in Scotland are diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and a further 500,000 are at risk of developing it. As we all know, with a diagnosis of type 2 diabetes can come serious complications including a risk of blindness and amputation. As the minister said, the NHS spends almost £1 billion on tackling diabetes, and 80 per cent of that goes on managing avoidable complications.

When faced with the complexity of our obesity and diabetes problems, it is easy to feel overwhelmed. Some of us—I note that Stewart Stevenson is not in the chamber—may longingly hark back to the good old days, when food was less processed and children played outside rather than sitting playing “Football Manager”, but nostalgia is not a solution. The key is an approach that does not just restrict unhealthy foods, which is negative, but that makes a balanced diet a much more practical option. We all know that the growth of out-of-home eating means that any strategy needs to have a consistently strong approach to the labelling and marketing of foods by restaurants and takeaways.

However, the environmental shift needs to encompass more than just our food culture. Although the nature of our public health challenge may look modern, under the surface the root causes are the same old story: poverty, social deprivation and inequality are significant contributors to people being overweight, and it is the least well off who are most at risk. For example, a quarter of children who live in our most deprived areas are at risk of obesity compared with only 17 per cent in the least deprived areas. The problem was captured very well in the Health and Sport Committee’s “Report on Health Inequalities” in 2015, which states:

“A boy born today in Lenzie, East Dunbartonshire, can expect to live until he is 82. Yet for a boy born only eight miles away in Calton, in the east end of Glasgow, life expectancy may be as low as 54 years, a difference of 28 years or almost half as long again as his whole life.”

Therefore, our health inequalities are just inequalities; they cannot be explained away purely as being about the food choices that individuals make. As food prices have risen, it has become harder for families on a tight budget to buy meals that are both filling and nutritious, and evidence shows that consumers want to buy healthier food but think that it is more expensive. Regulation of product promotions needs to be more ambitious than merely reducing the number of unhealthy foods that are on offer.

Placing restrictions on the formulation, sale and advertising of food products is beneficial, but it is also complex and tricky. Reversing our obesity crisis will require a cross-Government commitment that is realistic about the impact that poverty has on individual health. It is fine to talk about active travel, but what if it is not safe to walk or cycle in a local neighbourhood? It is fine to talk about healthy eating, but what if fresh fruit and veg cannot be bought at local shops due to rising food prices?

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-16710, in the name of Brian Whittle, on health education. I would like a wee bit of quiet. 15:51
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I am delighted to have the opportunity to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. I thank all the organisations that sent in briefing docum...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Brian Whittle mentioned food in our hospitals and schools. What is his view on processed meats that contain nitrites being served in hospitals and schools? S...
Brian Whittle Con
If we followed the path of procuring food that is sourced as locally to the school as possible, that problem would be solved in one fell swoop. The Governme...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
Mr Whittle must surely understand that young people want to spend time with other young people. If their friends are going out for lunch, they might wish to ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I will let you make up your time, Mr Whittle.
Brian Whittle Con
I will flip that point on its head. Most people do not know who gets free school meals, because children have a card to get that school meal. We should encou...
Dr Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Brian Whittle Con
I am sorry, but I have only one minute left. The cabinet secretaries for health, education and the rural economy should have been sitting on the Government ...
The Minister for Public Health, Sport and Wellbeing (Joe FitzPatrick) SNP
I thank Brian Whittle for giving us the opportunity to debate this important subject. I wanted to go on to say how heartened I was by his contribution becaus...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
Will the minister enshrine a right to food in the forthcoming good food nation bill?
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
Through the good food nation bill, we will look at how we can give better effect to a rights-based approach in practice, as we have done with social security...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate the Conservative group on selecting health education as its topic for debate this afternoon. I agree with the bulk of Brian Whittle’s opening ...
Brian Whittle Con
Will the member give way?
David Stewart Lab
I am sorry, but I am in my last minute.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The member is just closing.
David Stewart Lab
It is fine to promote a balanced lifestyle, but what if a person on the minimum wage with a zero-hours contract needs to grab a fast-food dinner during a spl...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I welcome today’s debate and I am sure that there is much in the motion that the whole chamber will agree on. Good nutrition and access to it should be at t...
Brian Whittle Con
Will the member give way?
Mark Ruskell Green
I am tight for time, so I will not be able to give way in this debate. On the wider context for the debate, learning outdoors, in a play-based environment, ...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I, too, am grateful to the Conservatives for securing time for this debate on an issue of such importance to the health of our nation. I will come later to w...
Brian Whittle Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I am in my first minute. If I have got time, I will come back to the member. The MP Mark Francois, who has been one of the most visible Conservative spokesp...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Has the member thought about what he has just said? Is there anything more important than the young people of Scotland today?
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I was thinking about them with every word that I said, because there is no greater threat to young people in this country than the crisis that the Conservati...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. Time is very tight, so please come in at under four minutes. 16:20
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
I declare an interest as a farmer, a food producer and a founder of farmers markets in Ayrshire and the west of Scotland. I welcome the opportunity to speak...
Dr Allan SNP
Will John Scott give way?
John Scott Con
No. I am sorry, but I do not have time. About eight to 10 years ago, East Ayrshire Council valiantly introduced such a policy, having recognised the huge ne...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I thank Brian Whittle for his important motion and for securing today’s debate. I am pleased to speak in the debate to reaffirm the need for people all over ...