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Meeting of the Parliament 15 January 2019

15 Jan 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Carbon-neutral Economy (Just Transition)
Cameron, Donald Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests, specifically with regard to residential housing, renewable energy and farming.

I welcome the opportunity to contribute to what has generally been a consensual debate. This is an important debate, particularly as we look forward to the Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee’s stage 1 report on the Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill. The bill will help to shape and define our approach to making Scotland greener and more environmentally sustainable.

There is, of course, a much wider importance to this debate, because the actions that this Parliament and Government take will contribute to a global effort to reduce carbon output. We must all be mindful of last year’s IPCC special report—“Global Warming of 1.5°C”, or the SR15 report—which noted that, if global carbon emissions continue on their current trend, we may reach global warming of 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels between 2030 and 2052. Although almost everyone would be impacted by such a global temperature rise, it would more than likely have a greater impact on some of the poorest parts of the world, so there is clearly a lot at stake.

With all that said, where we seek to reduce carbon emissions, whether that be in the housing sector or in transport, we must ensure that we allow businesses and other organisations the time to adapt, and that the Government provides proper support to allow the changes to occur. As my colleague Maurice Golden noted earlier, transforming our economy in order to meet those changes comes with risk, and we should seek where possible to work at a UK and Scotland level to help our country meet the challenges.

I will address two areas: the agricultural economy and housing. Others have spoken about the agricultural economy. The agricultural sector would face a significant burden should such changes be rushed through with little or no consultation and without co-operation. Joan McAlpine was right to speak about the need for co-operation in the sector, because it truly requires a just transition.

Our agricultural sector is vital to Scotland’s economy. We know from recent debates in this chamber that it supports thousands of jobs, manages much of our natural environment and maintains the existence of rural communities across the country. Farmers, crofters and land managers across Scotland have already made a contribution to reducing carbon output and helping our natural environment. From planting hedgerows and trees to investing in more fuel-efficient machinery, it is clear that the sector realises the need to adapt and—more important—is willing to adapt.

I was struck by Tavish Scott’s comment, which was absolutely right, that smaller farms and crofts will find it much harder to transition and reduce emissions than larger farms and agribusinesses will. That should be recognised as we redesign agricultural support.

The NFUS has recognised that

“Reaching the”

existing

“90% target will be very challenging for the farming industry”.

It has acknowledged the need for a strong focus

“on environmental benefit and delivery as a central plank of ... a new Scottish agricultural policy”.

The agricultural sector recognises not only that making such changes will benefit the environment but that it could be more cost effective for farms and drive up production rates. I think that we all recognise that this sector in particular needs time to adapt and change.

I will touch on housing and fuel efficiency. Housing is another sector that must adapt if we are to achieve a greater transition towards a low-carbon economy. Buildings remain one of the largest contributors to emissions in Scotland, and we must look at ways of improving home energy efficiency, building more sustainable housing and incentivising property owners to make changes that will save them money and address the climate change challenge that the world faces. As the Government’s figures show, 19.7 per cent of total greenhouse gas emissions in Scotland originate from buildings, so there is a lot of work to do.

I recently had a particularly interesting meeting in the Highlands about the German Passivhaus model, which creates homes that provide a

“high level of occupant comfort while using very little energy for heating and cooling.”

In short, that means building better and warmer homes.

Outwith my region, one example of such a project that has been successfully executed comes from the Dormont estate near Lockerbie, where eight two-bedroom and three-bedroom semi-detached properties were built to the Passivhaus standard. A two-year study of those properties’ energy performance showed not only that their energy bills were substantially lower than the UK average and that total energy consumption per annum for a Passivhaus building is just 10 per cent of the total UK average. Passivhaus is a type of housing that consumes less energy and creates a saving for the consumers who live in it. That is a prime example of how making our homes more energy efficient can help to reduce carbon output, which is beneficial not only for our natural environment but for our society.

To adapt our homes in order to conserve heat and save energy will inevitably help the most vulnerable people in our society. The cross-party group on health inequalities, which I co-convene, took evidence last year from the Energy Agency, which looked at the effects of the home energy efficiency programmes for Scotland on 300 properties that were described as hard to treat. It found that, after insulation was fitted, 93 per cent of residents felt that the overall condition of their home had been improved.

It is clear that we must take action to contribute to the global effort to reduce carbon output and create the conditions for businesses and industry to transition justly to a low-carbon economy. We must be effective in our approach and mindful of the challenges that lie ahead. Above all, we must take an evidence-based approach, and the Government must play its role in supporting our industries to take the steps that are required to achieve a positive outcome.

15:53  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-15380, in the name of Roseanna Cunningham, on securing a just transition to a carbon-neutral economy. 14:26
The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP
I have great pleasure in opening this debate on Scotland’s transition to a carbon-neutral economy, which is the first such debate for the Parliament. I expec...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Is the cabinet secretary aware that, largely as a result of President Obama’s efforts, there are 800,000 people in the renewables industry in the United Stat...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP
I am not sure that I was aware of the specific numbers of people in those employment sectors in America, but I was aware of the general sense that coal plays...
Maurice Golden (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I welcome today’s debate and the Government motion, and I agree with the cabinet secretary...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
Does Maurice Golden agree that perhaps the oil and gas companies could do a little bit more to invest in renewable energies and to fund research and developm...
Maurice Golden Con
I agree that oil and gas companies could do a lot more, even in terms of helping us to decommission and to get the most value from decommissioning. For examp...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
This debate on just transition principles is very significant for the fair future of Scotland’s economy and society in the global context. My party will supp...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Claudia Beamish Lab
Very briefly—this is an important part of the debate.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
There is time for interventions, Ms Beamish. I call Stewart Stevenson.
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Given that Claudia Beamish advocates a parliamentary line of responsibility, does she expect the appropriate member of the corporate body to be the person wh...
Claudia Beamish Lab
I understand Stewart Stevenson’s point, about which there is a debate to be had. It is important that the commission is independent of Government—there is pr...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
How we respond to the climate emergency while guaranteeing the economic security and wellbeing of everyone in our society is surely the most pressing issue o...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Today’s just transition debate enshrines the importance of building a fairer and more equal society while transitioning away from carbon-dependent industries...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No, I have been generous. I ask you to conclude, please.
Tavish Scott LD
I hope that other members will back the Labour and Tory amendments, but I will not be backing the Green amendment.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
As members will have guessed, there is some time in hand for interventions, so I can be a bit elastic on the six minutes, but not so elastic that it snaps—me...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
I want a low-carbon future, I want Scotland to play its full part in the fight against climate change and I want to have spent my time as a representative in...
Alexander Burnett (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Con
As I did in my speech last week, I will start on a positive note and commend Scotland for performing well on reducing its greenhouse gas emissions, which has...
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Economy and Fair Work (Derek Mackay) SNP
Does Alexander Burnett accept that the Scottish Government has tried to give as much stability and certainty as possible? The Cabinet Secretary for the Rural...
Alexander Burnett Con
The best way of getting certainty would be to back the Prime Minister’s Brexit deal tonight. Interruption. It is hypocrisy for Scottish National Party member...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I understand why members turn around to listen to members behind them, but they should not spend the entire speech with their back to the chair.
Maurice Golden Con
It was enthralling, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You might have found it enthralling, Mr Golden, but it was a discourtesy. It was not a discussion. I was not going to name you, Mr Golden, but now I will. Mr...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. Let us hope that I say nothing to annoy you too much. Exactly 10 years ago, I was at the 14th conference of the parties—COP 14...
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Last month, hundreds of energy workers and employers came together at a breakfast briefing in Aberdeen to consider how Scotland’s existing energy industries ...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. If we are to have a just transition to a carbon-neutral economy, we all need to be more honest in how we d...
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests, specifically with regard to residential housing, renewable energy and farming. I welcome ...
Angus MacDonald (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP
It is fair to say that the IPCC’s 1.5°C special report, which was published last October, was a wake-up call for all of us—and if it was not, it should have ...