Holyrood, made browsable

Hansard

Every contribution to the Official Report — chamber and committee — searchable in one place. Pulled from data.parliament.scot, indexed for full-text search, linked through to every MSP.

129
Current MSPs
415
MSPs ever elected
13
Parties on record
2,355,091
Hansard contributions
1999–2026
Coverage span
Official Report

Search Hansard contributions

Clear
Showing 0 of 2,355,091 contributions in session S6, 16 Apr 2026 – 16 May 2026. Latest 30 days: 148. Coverage: 12 May 1999 — 14 May 2026.

No contributions match those filters.

← Back to list
Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 19 December 2018

19 Dec 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Water Charges (Single-person Households)

I start by paying tribute to my colleague Jackie Baillie for securing the debate and lodging her relevant motion. Jackie has a formidable record as a campaigner and in bringing issues of substance and issues that matter to the Scottish Parliament chamber. Scottish Water’s proposed cut to the discount for single persons is no different from those.

We should look at the extent of the issue. The proposal will affect nearly one million people; the geographic breakdown shows that it will affect 138,000 people in Glasgow and 57,000 people in South Lanarkshire. I have no doubt that many people across Rutherglen, Cambuslang and Blantyre will be concerned about the proposals in the Scottish Government’s consultation document. Age Scotland is right to highlight the impact on pensioners. We know that over the next 25 years, the impact will grow by 50 per cent.

It is relevant that we are having the debate at this time of year, when we are also focusing on fuel poverty. A quarter of people in Scotland suffer from fuel poverty, and half of them are older people. A lot of the issues relating to the single-person discount affect older people.

That being the case, the Scottish Government is pursuing the wrong policy. First, the policy is unfair. If the single occupancy discount was reduced or removed, nearly a million people would be affected, including a lot of pensioners.

Secondly, there seems to be an argument about shifting to the council tax reduction element of the water charge. That has very poor uptake, so it would not have the same impact in terms of helping people. There would be unintended consequences to the policy.

I suspect that the Scottish Government is taking the approach because it continues to pursue fundraising options to fill the black holes in its budget—not just this year, but in future years. Nobody should be surprised by that. From the publication of last week’s draft budget, we know that there will be a decrease of £319 million in real terms for local councils alone. There are clear issues with that.

Jackie Baillie has brought a relevant issue to the chamber. Having looked at the consultation, I say to James Dornan that it lists clearly the various current exemptions and says:

“Ministers ... consider that there is a strong case for reducing or removing these discounts.”

It says not just that there is a case, but that there is “a strong case”. That shows how the Government is thinking. It clearly knows that the issue is controversial, given that it will publish the results of the consultation on Friday, when most people will be heading off for the Christmas break. I agree with Jackie Baillie that the Government should rethink its position, if the direction of travel is to reduce or get rid of the discount.

This debate has been relevant in bringing the issue to the chamber, so I hope that the cabinet secretary’s response to it is constructive. As the change would have a detrimental effect on nearly a million Scots, a lot of whom are pensioners, we need to rethink the way forward.

17:30  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S5M-14677, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on the Scottish Government to penalise Scots for...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
You can call me Jackie any time you like, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
It is too close to recess. I am drifting. I call Jackie Baillie to open the debate. Motion debated, That the Parliament disagrees with the Scottish Water p...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
Almost 950,000 people in Scotland receive a discount for their water. For the overwhelming majority of those people, the discount is worth 25 per cent of the...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Does Jackie Baillie accept that some of us who are single and live on our own would happily pay a bit of extra money?
Jackie Baillie Lab
If John Mason wishes to do so, I am sure that Glasgow City Council would welcome him paying extra. However, that is not the point. The majority of people in ...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
As is normal, I thank Jackie Baillie for securing the debate. However, I am deeply disappointed in the tone of her motion, and I am also surprised that it wa...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
James Dornan SNP
Only if it is not coming of my time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is time, Mr Dornan.
Daniel Johnson Lab
I gather, based on his remarks, that the member is asking the Scottish Government to rule out removing the single-person discount for water. Is that correct?
James Dornan SNP
I thought that Daniel Johnson had been here long enough to know the difference between a consultation and something that is not a consultation. The consultat...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The member should be concluding, Ms Baillie.
James Dornan SNP
I reiterate that no decisions have been taken on the issue. However, when the decision is taken, it will be about ensuring that the help that we provide goes...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Dornan. Just for—Interruption. I ask members to please be quiet. Mr Dornan, you said that you did not know why the motion was allowed. The proc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Sit down, Mr Dornan.
James Dornan SNP
I raise a point of order.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Tread carefully—it had better be a point of order.
James Dornan SNP
Do we have clarification of what the boundaries are for a member’s debate?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Sit down, Mr Dornan. Sit down. That is not a point of order. You asked why the debate was allowed and I have explained the parliamentary process. That is why...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
My speech completely misjudges the tone of the debate, but I will continue. I thank Jackie Baillie for bringing this important subject to the chamber. As t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I have been quite indulgent, because you did not read the motion properly.
Finlay Carson Con
You are absolutely right.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Do not test my indulgence by giving me a big list of all the organisations that you want on the record.
Finlay Carson Con
I certainly will not do that.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No, you will not.
Finlay Carson Con
At this time of year, when the focus is on goodwill to all men and women, Scottish Water needs to look again at its misguided plans that will punish people s...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much. I see that you have found your card and I have found my glasses, so things are improving. 17:25
James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I start by paying tribute to my colleague Jackie Baillie for securing the debate and lodging her relevant motion. Jackie has a formidable record as a campaig...