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Meeting of the Parliament 11 December 2018

11 Dec 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Fisheries Negotiations
Mountain, Edward Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

Presiding Officer, you are so generous. Thank you.

Another year end and another annual debate on next year’s European fishing quotas. This year’s EU-Norway talks on proposed fishing quotas will worry Scottish fishermen—there are proposed reductions in the total allowable catch for mackerel, North Sea cod and haddock. While most of the reductions are mainly the result of scientific evidence, the effect on some fish catches seems to fall particularly hard on Scottish fishermen. Those are the key commercial stocks, and, coupled with the landing obligations, the proposals promise to make next year a tough one for our fishing industry. Once again, we could see our fishermen who reach their quota limit having to hang up their nets and see millions of fish either landed by foreign vessels or go uncaught.

Given all that is going on, as the cabinet secretary has hinted, it is perhaps unreasonable for us to expect the EU to give particular respect to our fishermen. I, for one, am not surprised that the EU27 will negotiate for the EU27. However, we know that that will change in future years. It is clear that Scottish fishermen want nothing more than for the UK to leave the hated common fisheries policy and for the UK to take its place as an independent coastal state. The cabinet secretary knows and has acknowledged that. When the UK has the power to negotiate its own fishing quotas, we will have the potential to stop bad deals that are presented to us by the EU. When the UK sits at the table, it will be able to strike a bilateral deal with Norway on the northern North Sea and a tripartite deal with the EU and Norway on the southern sea. I believe that those deals will better serve the interests of Scottish fishermen. That is why I welcome the UK Fisheries Bill, which even the cabinet secretary has begrudgingly described as having “broadly positive outcomes”.

There is every reason for the SNP Government to welcome the bill. The Parliament will receive more powers to regulate sea fisheries resources and protect the marine environment, which Mark Ruskell has said is so important. In that regard, I am disappointed that his amendment limited the tracking to Scottish vessels; if it had gone wider than that, there would have been support for it from Conservative members. In addition, the Scottish Government will be able to issue licences to boats that fish in waters that are controlled by Scotland.

I take a moment to remind the Scottish Government how unfair the common fisheries policy is. On average, EU vessels landed £540 million-worth of fish from UK waters between 2012 and 2016. By comparison, UK vessels landed £110 million-worth of fish from EU waters in the same period. That does not seem right or equitable, and we should not allow our fishermen to be short changed. Quotas and access rights will still be a central part of UK fisheries, but the UK will have a duty to get the best deal for our fishermen.

We have a duty to ensure that our quotas and access rights reflect sustainable goals, so that the UK fishing industry as a whole can have a secure future for generations to come. We do not need scientists to tell us that fish are not fixated on borders. They are not Scottish, English, Northern Irish or, indeed, Welsh. That is why the UK is best placed to ensure that we co-operate within the UK and with others to ensure that sustainable stocks are kept for the future. However, co-operation should not come at the cost of not securing the best deal for the UK—we need to strive for that in the future.

I welcome the UK Government’s announcement—as mentioned by Mr Chapman—of an additional £37.2 million of extra funding to strengthen the UK fishing industry. That comes on top of the commitment to match the European maritime and fisheries fund. A sea of opportunity awaits our fishing industry and the UK Government is determined to help fishermen to seize it. The rural coastal communities in the Highlands and Islands, in areas that the cabinet secretary and I represent, know that the opportunity is coming, and any attempts to frustrate our exit from the common fisheries policy would be more than an insult to those communities.

Every year when we have this debate, I am struck by how the UK fishing fleet is held back by the EU. If we stay in the EU, nothing will change. Our fishermen do not want that and the country does not want it. It is time to respect the fact that now is the time to ditch the common fisheries policy.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-15096, in the name of Fergus Ewing, on sea fisheries and end-of-year negotiations. 14:16
The Cabinet Secretary for the Rural Economy (Fergus Ewing) SNP
It is a privilege once again to represent the fishing industry ahead of this year’s December council. I reiterate my admiration and respect for the fishing ...
Peter Chapman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
It has been a pleasure and a privilege to work with the fishing industry this year. I am pleased to speak on its behalf in this important debate, to open for...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
Peter Chapman talks about foreign vessels coming into our waters. Is not that exactly the situation that the French faced this year, with the Scottish fleet ...
Peter Chapman Con
Our fishermen were completely in the right in that argument. The French were not supposed to be fishing in those waters, whereas we were allowed to do so. To...
Dr Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
I am sure that Peter Chapman has, as I have done in my part of Scotland, spoken to fish processing firms. Has he not noticed that, above all their other conc...
Peter Chapman Con
The workforce is absolutely an issue. However, the decline has been going on for nearly 10 years, which is long before anyone ever spoke about Brexit, so the...
The Minister for Rural Affairs and the Natural Environment (Mairi Gougeon) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Peter Chapman Con
I have taken two already, so I will not. It has been blatantly obvious to us all that the SNP Government has used the Brexit vote as a weapon to build more ...
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Aye? Laughter.
Peter Chapman Con
The deal is not perfect, but it is the only game in town, and it is pragmatic and workable. Our fishermen will never forget and will never forgive the SNP if...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I was going to try very hard to avoid mentioning Brexit, but given that Peter Chapman did not amend his speech in the light of the fact that there is to be n...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
The Green amendment allows me to return to a subject that I spoke about in last year’s debate, which is the urgent need for the full tracking and monitoring ...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
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Mark Ruskell Green
It is true that that activity is undertaken by only a small minority, but the proposal is not only about monitoring and compliance, but about data gathering ...
Peter Chapman Con
The member’s amendment speaks about monitoring and policing the Scottish fleet. Why does he not think that there is a need to monitor and police the EU fleet?
Mark Ruskell Green
That is a good point, and something that could be taken forward through further reform of the CFP. Of course, we will not be in the CFP, because we will be t...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
With a week to go before the December EU fisheries council negotiations and with the EU-Faroes bilateral negotiations taking place as we speak, today’s debat...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I did a quick sum before the debate: I think that this is my 11th or 12th speech on fisheries negotiations since becoming a member. Each year’s negotiations ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
I call Edward Mountain, to be followed by Alasdair Allan. Mr Mountain, dinna fash yersel—you can have up to 7 minutes, or even a wee bit more. There is time ...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Presiding Officer, you are so generous. Thank you. Another year end and another annual debate on next year’s European fishing quotas. This year’s EU-Norway ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
He did not even use the extra time. I cannot please you, no matter what I do, Mr Mountain. 15:14
Dr Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
As other members have mentioned, this year’s European fisheries talks have been somewhat overshadowed by European negotiations of a different kind and by the...
Edward Mountain Con
The European judgment said that we would need to rejoin the EU under the same terms and conditions. Does that not mean that we would need to go back under th...
Dr Allan SNP
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Peter Chapman Con
Does the member not accept that we have made it abundantly clear at every opportunity and on every occasion that we will not link access to our waters to the...
Dr Allan SNP
There is certainly room for more than some ambiguity about that. The wording of the political declaration makes it abundantly clear that a link is being made...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
The first time that I took part in this end-of-term December debate on the fisheries negotiations was in 2006, which is the year that I came into the Parliam...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Excuse me a minute, Ms Watt. I cannot hear anything that you are saying because of Mr Chapman. Please stop; I would like to hear Ms Watt.