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Meeting of the Parliament 04 December 2018

04 Dec 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill

I was coming to that point. I wanted first to address Mr Finnie’s question on databases. We take that issue extremely seriously. We will watch how the bill progresses through the UK Parliament—and it almost goes without saying that Scottish National Party members of that Parliament will be involved in the scrutiny of the bill, as they have been up to this point.

I was asked to reflect on the need to undertake an impact assessment on the specific issues on which we seek legislative consent. I acknowledge the concerns that organisations and individuals have raised about the bill in its entirety and I welcome the scrutiny that the bill rightly faces in the UK Parliament, but I do not consider it appropriate for the Scottish Government to undertake an impact assessment on a UK Government bill, the majority of which is within reserved competence.

I recognise the concerns of the committee and John Finnie, and I agree that the bill needs to be properly scrutinised, to ensure that any impact is necessary and proportionate. That scrutiny will happen in the UK Parliament, where the bill in its entirety is being considered. The provisions that are under consideration in relation to the legislative consent motion give consistency to law enforcement in the UK and will ensure that Scotland is not at a disadvantage in tackling the terrorist threats that we face.

On Daniel Johnson’s point, I wrote to the committee and my official spoke to a number of human rights organisations. Although those organisations have concerns about the bill more widely, they do not necessarily have concerns about the narrow issues that we are considering in the context of this legislative consent motion.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is consideration of a legislative consent motion. I ask Humza Yousaf to move motion S5M-15017, on the Counter-Terrorism and Border ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Adam Tomkins. 16:53
Adam Tomkins (Glasgow) (Con) Con
In October last year, Andrew Parker, the director general of MI5, described the on-going terrorist threat that faces the United Kingdom as “multi-dimensiona...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
The matter was discussed at the Justice Committee on 13 November. Of course it is important to have consistent application of legislation, but legislation mu...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Humza Yousaf) SNP
I thank both Adam Tomkins and John Finnie for speaking on this legislative consent motion, and the Presiding Officer for the opportunity to respond. The Cou...
John Finnie Green
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Humza Yousaf SNP
If the member does not mind, I want to make progress—if only because he said that he would vote against the LCM regardless of what I say. In response to the...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I heard Mr Finnie rightly ask about a human rights assessment. Labour members are minded to support the Government on the LCM, but the point about a human ri...
Humza Yousaf SNP
I was coming to that point. I wanted first to address Mr Finnie’s question on databases. We take that issue extremely seriously. We will watch how the bill p...
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The question on the LCM will be put at decision time.