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Meeting of the Parliament 04 December 2018

04 Dec 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Veterans
Rowley, Alex Lab Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

In closing for Labour, I again offer support for the debate, and I welcome the backing that has been shown across the chamber for veterans in Scotland.

With regard to the veterans strategy, I am pleased to see that there is, as Mark Griffin said, collaborative working across the UK to develop and endorse a much-needed and vital strategy. At the same time, as Graeme Dey outlined, there is scope to tailor services across the nations. Therefore, it is right that the Parliament looks at what those services should be.

When we last discussed veterans’ issues in the Parliament, I highlighted that, although we welcome the on-going progress that is being made on support for former armed forces personnel, there are still gaps in support, particularly for veterans who have been involved in recent conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq. Jackie Baillie has outlined some of those gaps in mental health and welfare support. I reiterate those points and I hope that, today, we are able to consider the key issues around welfare and mental health as the Government undertakes its consultation on how to take forward the veterans strategy in Scotland.

I heard what Graeme Dey said about the majority of veterans making a positive contribution to society—a point that was also made by Maurice Corry and Jackie Baillie. However, the tragic truth is that the number of referrals of former armed forces personnel for post-traumatic stress disorder and other mental health conditions has gone up by 143 per cent over the past 10 years. One of the key aims of the veterans strategy is enhanced collection, use and analysis of data across the public, private and charitable sectors to build an evidence base that will effectively identify and address the needs of veterans.

I wrote to the veterans minister on that issue and the issue of veteran suicide to highlight that the number of veterans who are committing suicide is increasing although a lot of that data is not being collected. It is important that there is a commitment to collecting that data, which is needed to allow for a better understanding of what is going on as well as to provide a vital resource to prevent further tragedies. I urge that any decisions on taking the veterans strategy forward in Scotland consider the problem of veterans’ mental welfare and the support that is offered to veterans.

In implementing the strategy, it should be obvious that veterans and their families should be given the required support as and when it is needed. As Stuart McMillan said, we all have a duty to those who have served in our armed forces. That is particularly true of those who have served in recent conflicts and are in need of our support now. I hope that members across the chamber agree.

The importance of specialist physical and mental health services for veterans with enduring injuries and conditions cannot to be overstated. We need to protect and resource those services for current and future generations.

Richard Lyle and other members have highlighted the importance of housing services. Again, we should ensure that veterans who have served their country and their families are able to get a roof over their head.

Without properly funded services, warm words and strategies are meaningless. When it comes to something as important as the welfare of our veterans in their time of need, I hope that we can all agree that we need real commitment in the form of properly funded services.

16:36  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-15016, in the name of Graeme Dey, on a strategy for our veterans: taking it forward in Scotland. 15:38
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
I am pleased to open this afternoon’s debate, in which we will consider how we support our armed forces and veterans community in Scotland. I advise the cham...
Maurice Corry (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I declare an interest: I am a veteran. I welcome the opportunity to speak in this debate. Given my past experience in the armed forces and my role in vetera...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Like Mr Corry, I declare an interest as an armed forces veteran. We welcome the debate, the work that partners across all four UK nations have undertaken in...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
I am pleased to speak in today’s debate. A great many adults in Scotland have served in our armed forces. Although the majority of veterans go on to lead nor...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to speak in the debate. As members will know, members of the armed forces and the ex-service community account for almost 10 per cent of the p...
Tom Mason (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I support the motion and my colleague Maurice Corry’s amendment. We are fortunate to live in an open and free democracy where we are able to debate the ideas...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I was pleased in this session of Parliament to respond positively to an invitation to become a member of the Highland Reserve Forces and Cadets Association, ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
As deputy convener of the cross-party group on the armed forces and veterans community, I am delighted that we have the opportunity today to have a debate—al...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in the debate, not least in order to welcome the work that has been undertaken by partners across all four nations to develop a veteran...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Today’s debate is a welcome opportunity to discuss some of the positive work across the United Kingdom to support and expand opportunities for veterans. The...
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
It is an honour and privilege to speak in today’s debate. Veterans are true heroes who often receive less support than they deserve. We all understand the i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the closing speeches. I call Mike Rumbles to speak for four minutes. 16:30
Mike Rumbles LD
I do not want to take up too much time. I am impressed by the contributions from across the chamber. Every member has spoken with the feeling that everything...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That was quick. That caught me unexpectedly, Mr Rumbles. I call Alex Rowley. Mr Rowley, I can allow you a little extra time, if you wish. 16:31
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
In closing for Labour, I again offer support for the debate, and I welcome the backing that has been shown across the chamber for veterans in Scotland. With...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Like Mark Griffin, Maurice Corry and Mike Rumbles, I was a soldier. I served the country for 12 years. I am a veteran of a regiment in which my son now serve...
Mike Rumbles LD
Will the member clarify that he is not pleading for special treatment? I think that he is saying that we should treat everyone on both sides of that conflict...
Edward Mountain Con
I am, indeed, saying that. I have used the example before of a colleague in my regiment who is now being persecuted for something that happened in the 1970s,...
Graeme Dey SNP
I warmly thank colleagues from across the chamber for their contributions. The debate has been relatively brief, but it has very much re-emphasised the cross...
Maurice Corry Con
I discussed with the minister the issue of expanding the science parks in four areas of Scotland. Has he made any progress on that? Progress in that area wou...
Graeme Dey SNP
As Mr Corry might acknowledge, it was only a few days ago that we discussed the issue, so the answer is that I have not yet made progress on it.
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Humza Yousaf) SNP
You are terribly slow. Laughter.
Graeme Dey SNP
I was making the point that the transition process can be very hard for the family, and it can be doubly hard if the sailor, soldier or airman has been left ...