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Meeting of the Parliament 04 December 2018

04 Dec 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Veterans

As deputy convener of the cross-party group on the armed forces and veterans community, I am delighted that we have the opportunity today to have a debate—albeit that it is a short one—on the strategy for our veterans. It is a strategy that, as we know, was endorsed by the UK, Scottish and Welsh Governments just last month. It has, at its heart, recognition that service personnel and their families should not be disadvantaged by the very fact of their service, and that, where it is needed, special provision must be made to help those who have sacrificed most—those who have unfortunately been injured or bereaved.

I look forward to the Scottish Government working with key partners and, most important, with veterans themselves, because it is important that we learn from lived experience. That will progress consultation on implementation of the strategy in Scotland. As we have heard, the strategy touches on a host of devolved areas—housing, health, education, skills and employability, to name but a few.

I am very pleased that the strategy will build on the valuable work of the first veterans commissioner, Eric Fraser, and his successor, Charlie Wallace. They have already published a number of reports about the experience of veterans in Scotland, and have made a number of recommendations that I commend to the minister. I hope that he will look at them with a view to implementing them.

In the short time that I have available, I will focus on Labour’s amendment, which refers to

“specialist physical and mental health services”.

The Scottish Veterans Commissioner rightly noted that although priority has been given to healthcare for veterans, it is clear that we must not be complacent about the quality of services and the need to keep them under constant review.

I know that politicians like to talk about the postcode lottery that exists among health boards, but I have to say that there are also inconsistencies within heath boards. We can and should do much better. I think that everybody would agree that it is right that the people who have sacrificed most for their country deserve the best possible services and care. There are challenges in respect of our mental health services, including long waiting times, pressure on staffing and lack of sustainability. The challenges affect everyone—not just veterans. However, there is undoubtedly a requirement for specialist services, as my colleagues have said, for people who have severe and enduring problems as a result of their military service. Those services need to be developed and sustained, and they need to be provided not just in healthcare, but in social care.

I welcome the Government’s mental health action plan, which mentions veterans. I know that veterans experience challenging mental health problems as a result of their service. Some in my constituency have suffered, and continue to suffer, from PTSD, and I know that more could be done locally to support them. The Scottish Veterans Commissioner asked for a specific plan to tackle mental ill health among veterans. I ask the minister to consider that and to consider how we might remove barriers to accessing mental health services for veterans, how we deal with the persistent problem of the postcode lottery in services and how, in particular, we protect specialist PTSD services. I think that we would all acknowledge that funding for specialist mental health services is patchy, short term and insecure. I hope that the minister has had a conversation with the Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Economy and Fair Work, and that he will address that issue in the budget next week.

Finally, members are right to acknowledge that veterans are an asset to their workplaces and their communities. I know from the veterans in Dumbarton, the Vale of Leven and Helensburgh what a fantastic contribution they make to our area. I thank them and all veterans for their service to our country. It is incumbent on us to repay that service by ensuring that their transition to civilian life is smooth and seamless.

16:17  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-15016, in the name of Graeme Dey, on a strategy for our veterans: taking it forward in Scotland. 15:38
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
I am pleased to open this afternoon’s debate, in which we will consider how we support our armed forces and veterans community in Scotland. I advise the cham...
Maurice Corry (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I declare an interest: I am a veteran. I welcome the opportunity to speak in this debate. Given my past experience in the armed forces and my role in vetera...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Like Mr Corry, I declare an interest as an armed forces veteran. We welcome the debate, the work that partners across all four UK nations have undertaken in...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
I am pleased to speak in today’s debate. A great many adults in Scotland have served in our armed forces. Although the majority of veterans go on to lead nor...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to speak in the debate. As members will know, members of the armed forces and the ex-service community account for almost 10 per cent of the p...
Tom Mason (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I support the motion and my colleague Maurice Corry’s amendment. We are fortunate to live in an open and free democracy where we are able to debate the ideas...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I was pleased in this session of Parliament to respond positively to an invitation to become a member of the Highland Reserve Forces and Cadets Association, ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
As deputy convener of the cross-party group on the armed forces and veterans community, I am delighted that we have the opportunity today to have a debate—al...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in the debate, not least in order to welcome the work that has been undertaken by partners across all four nations to develop a veteran...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Today’s debate is a welcome opportunity to discuss some of the positive work across the United Kingdom to support and expand opportunities for veterans. The...
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
It is an honour and privilege to speak in today’s debate. Veterans are true heroes who often receive less support than they deserve. We all understand the i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the closing speeches. I call Mike Rumbles to speak for four minutes. 16:30
Mike Rumbles LD
I do not want to take up too much time. I am impressed by the contributions from across the chamber. Every member has spoken with the feeling that everything...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That was quick. That caught me unexpectedly, Mr Rumbles. I call Alex Rowley. Mr Rowley, I can allow you a little extra time, if you wish. 16:31
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
In closing for Labour, I again offer support for the debate, and I welcome the backing that has been shown across the chamber for veterans in Scotland. With...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Like Mark Griffin, Maurice Corry and Mike Rumbles, I was a soldier. I served the country for 12 years. I am a veteran of a regiment in which my son now serve...
Mike Rumbles LD
Will the member clarify that he is not pleading for special treatment? I think that he is saying that we should treat everyone on both sides of that conflict...
Edward Mountain Con
I am, indeed, saying that. I have used the example before of a colleague in my regiment who is now being persecuted for something that happened in the 1970s,...
Graeme Dey SNP
I warmly thank colleagues from across the chamber for their contributions. The debate has been relatively brief, but it has very much re-emphasised the cross...
Maurice Corry Con
I discussed with the minister the issue of expanding the science parks in four areas of Scotland. Has he made any progress on that? Progress in that area wou...
Graeme Dey SNP
As Mr Corry might acknowledge, it was only a few days ago that we discussed the issue, so the answer is that I have not yet made progress on it.
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Humza Yousaf) SNP
You are terribly slow. Laughter.
Graeme Dey SNP
I was making the point that the transition process can be very hard for the family, and it can be doubly hard if the sailor, soldier or airman has been left ...