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Meeting of the Parliament 15 November 2018

15 Nov 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Physical Activity, Diet and Healthy Weight
Smith, Liz Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I warmly congratulate the member who has just spoken, not just because of the wonderful Munros in Stirlingshire, which I have had the privilege of climbing—some of them several times—but because Stirlingshire has led the way with many good-news stories when it comes to educating our youngsters on health.

The first Education, Lifelong Learning and Culture Committee inquiry that I took part in when I was elected was on whether we should introduce free school meals in primary 1 to 3. Aside from all the politics of that debate—and there were plenty of them; in fact, they are still going on—there was some fascinating evidence from around the country, south of the border and other countries about what interventions had helped the very youngest people to eat more healthily. One piece of evidence that stood out for me was the marked improvement when schools encouraged pupils and parents to get involved in the setting of menus, and when those menus made good use of locally sourced food. Brian Whittle referred to initiatives in Japan and Denmark, where pupils are able to help in the school kitchen.

The evidence since then has been striking in relation to rural schools, where food is very much part of the farming community that surrounds those schools. There is a lesson to be learned from the recent story in The Press and Journal about the school cook at Broadford primary school, who has been nominated for two awards for her outstanding work in promoting healthy eating at the school and inspiring pupils to further educate themselves on nutrition.

The evidence that we took at the Education, Lifelong Learning and Culture Committee has stuck with me throughout my time as an elected member, especially when I consider school meals that are less than satisfactory. It is sometimes argued that it is more expensive to prepare healthy meals because there is less scope for mass purchasing, and therefore less scope for economies of scale when it comes to preparing and transporting food. I wholly refute that view, although I accept that many school kitchens are not always suitable for the kind of meal preparation that we need in modern schools. It is important for us all to think about that when it comes to procurement.

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The Minister for Public Health, Sport and Wellbeing (Joe FitzPatrick) SNP
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Joe FitzPatrick SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Will you formally move your motion, please, minister?
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
I moved it in my very first sentence.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Did you? I was not listening closely enough. I am very sorry.
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
I move, That the Parliament welcomes the publication of two new delivery plans for Scotland, which set out ambitious actions to increase levels of physical ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Brian Whittle to move amendment S5M-14749.1 and to speak to it for no more than eight minutes, please. 15:23
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
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David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
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Brian Whittle Con
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David Stewart Lab
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Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
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John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
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Alison Johnstone Green
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
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Annabelle Ewing (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Bruce Crawford SNP
Only if the member is going to serve me macaroni and cheese.
Annabelle Ewing SNP
I am curious, now that Bruce Crawford has raised the matter: did he have macaroni cheese for lunch?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Excuse me, Mr Crawford; I put on record that I did not take chips.
Bruce Crawford SNP
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Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
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Liz Smith Con
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Will the member give way?
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