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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 31 October 2018

31 Oct 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Ferry Services

Thank you, Presiding Officer.

My goodness, the minister has an absolute cheek to stand up and tell members that it is somebody else’s fault that the ferry services in Scotland are not up to scratch. It is always somebody else’s fault. I advise the minister to listen not just to what we have to say, but to what members across the chamber from every part of Scotland have to say. Listen to us and to the people out there who have to rely on those services.

We have initiated this debate because of those voices across Scotland—not experts in the marine industry, but people to whom the ferry services matter the most, such as the farmer from Arran who contacted me, who cannot get his livestock to the market on the mainland because of a lack of commercial space on the vessel, and the tourist whom I met sitting in a queue outside my office in Largs. He had come down from Glasgow for the day to take his family to Millport for a day trip, but had spent three hours queuing to get a seat on a vessel that takes eight minutes to cross to Cumbrae. Even worse, Monty Phillips, who is a carer, was forced to sleep in a grit bin overnight because the last ferry to Dunoon was cancelled and the terminal staff would not even let her sleep in the waiting room. There are outrageous and shocking stories of people being let down.

It is a fact that, since the Scottish National Party came to power, there have been more than 70,000 ferry delays or cancellations across Scotland. That is 177 sailings a week in Scotland being disrupted.

It is timely that this debate comes when the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee has just released a letter to the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Infrastructure and Connectivity—I notice that he is absent from the debate—that summarises the committee’s findings on ferry funding as part of its budget scrutiny. The committee’s report makes for difficult reading, and I advise the minister to read it very carefully. Perhaps if he had read it, he might have lodged a more realistic and self-aware amendment than the one that he lodged for today’s debate.

The REC Committee was told that ferry services and ferry infrastructure have suffered from a lengthy period of underinvestment. In evidence to the committee, the managing director of CalMac Ferries Ltd described this summer’s disruption as

“the worst ... in eight years”.—[Official Report, Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee, 30 May 2018; c 3.]

On back-up vessels, Mr Drummond told the committee that CalMac has no spare assets and no spare fleet and that its staff are working at their absolute capacity just to maintain the status quo. If a single vessel is out of service, the entire network is disrupted for weeks at a time, as was the case when the MV Clansman was out of service. To be fair to Mr Drummond, it is not CalMac’s fault. It is working with the contracts and the fleet that it has available to it.

The committee held a number of evidence-taking sessions with a wide range of stakeholders. Their concerns included the lack of vessel capacity for vehicles; investment not matching increased growth from tourism; insufficient integration with mainland transport; and a focus on procuring larger, more expensive vessels, which limits the ability to move vessels between one port and another or between one service and another.

I know that there are a wide range of views in Parliament on who should or should not operate our ferries, but when the Government ran a tender for the Clyde and Hebrides ferry service contract, the process was complex, inflexible and expensive, and it discouraged innovative bids.

The committee noted that investment in port infrastructure and vessels is not meeting demand. The chief executive of Caledonian Maritime Assets Ltd told the REC Committee that the annual investment needed was £30 million on vessels and £20 million on harbours. It has been receiving just half that amount, so it is no surprise to anyone that there is so much disruption to our fleets.

There is a wider problem. Last year’s Audit Scotland report, “Transport Scotland’s ferry services”, warned that the lack of long-term investment and vision, along with skyrocketing subsidies and limited public finances, could be detrimental to the long-term viability of Scotland’s ferries. Audit Scotland said:

“There is no Scotland-wide, long-term strategy ... Transport Scotland will find it challenging to continue to provide ferry services that meet the needs of users within its allocated budget.”

That is not the future; I argue that it is already the case. In that context, I am pleased to agree with Labour’s amendment.

The Conservatives share Labour’s aspiration for a Government that produces a 30-year plan for shipbuilding and ferry replacement. That is a sensible addition to the debate, and I ask that other members support that call, too.

The industry has been saying that for years. The Scottish Government even acknowledged that itself as far back as 2011 in its ferries plan, when it said:

“We are faced with significant and growing increases in both resource and capital costs to maintain existing ferry services ... it is clear that we are not able to deliver all of our ... improvements to ferry services”.

Since the introduction of the road equivalent tariff, the reality is that demand has simply outstripped supply. Who is suffering the most? Our island communities.

The Government’s amendment does one thing: it deletes my motion. It notes that people are concerned and frustrated. Today’s award for the biggest understatement goes to Paul Wheelhouse.

We called this debate today because enough is enough. For too long, the Scottish Government has ignored repeated warnings from the industry. The public are sick and tired of the disruption, the delays and the cancellations. They were promised new vessels; they have not arrived. They asked for one type of vessel; another was delivered. They were promised that their needs would be put first; instead, they are queuing for hours on end to get on a ferry home.

I urge all members to listen to the many anecdotes that they have heard that come from the length and breadth of Scotland, and rather than pretend that the status quo is acceptable, as the Government wants us to do, to stand up and stick up for their island communities, because that is what we will do.

I move,

That the Parliament raises its concern over the provision of Scotland’s ferry services, which have seen significant delays, disruptions and cancellations over the last 12 months to the detriment of Scotland’s island and rural communities; notes that CalMac Ferries’ managing director described this summer’s disruptions as the worst in eight years and admitted that there is currently no resilience in the network based on the lack of additional available vessels in case of breakdowns; recognises the comments made by Audit Scotland in its 2017 report, Transport Scotland’s ferry services, in which it called for a new long-term ferry strategy; recognises the necessity of ferries in boosting tourism and providing vital public services to island communities, and calls on the Scottish Government to remedy these failings and restore public confidence in Scotland’s ferry network.

14:49  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-14520, in the name of Jamie Greene, on concern over the state of Scotland’s ferry services. 14:41
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank those on the ground who care passionately about delivering Scotland’s ferry services, those who work on board our vessels in our ports and harbours, ...
The Minister for Energy, Connectivity and the Islands (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
If Jamie Greene is making assertions about the role of the Scottish Government, does he recognise that, over the past decade—certainly since 2010—we have fac...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Greene, do not fret: I will give you your time back. However, you must not get up and stand while another member is speaking, anxious though you are.
Jamie Greene Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer. My goodness, the minister has an absolute cheek to stand up and tell members that it is somebody else’s fault that the ferry s...
The Minister for Energy, Connectivity and the Islands (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
The Scottish Government recognises that our ferry services must strive to match the aspirations of the communities that they serve by providing lifeline serv...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
The minister has twice said to the chamber something that is manifestly untrue. He has stated twice that the Scottish Government’s budget has been reduced by...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That was a long intervention, so I will give you the time back, minister.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I absolutely do not accept Mr Fraser’s assessment. I say with respect to Mr Fraser that to refer to financial transactions fun...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Will the minister take an intervention?
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I am short of time, but I will try to let Mr Scott in later. That support has delivered the introduction of new routes, service enhancements and strengthene...
Tavish Scott LD
Will the minister give way?
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
May I bring in Mr Scott, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No. You are closing, so if do you, you are—
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I thought that I had additional time, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You have, but you had only six minutes and you are getting just slightly over that.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Okay. I apologise to Mr Scott. Those are quite properly long-term measures. Given the scale of investment, it is important that we take an informed, strateg...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Please conclude and move your amendment, minister.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I thank you for your forbearance, Presiding Officer. I ask members to support my amendment. I move amendment S5M-14520.4, to leave out from “raises” to end ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Colin Smyth to speak to and move amendment S5M-14520.3. You have five minutes, Mr Smyth. 14:56
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is no exaggeration to say that Scotland’s ferry network provides a lifeline for communities. In evidence to the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee, ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Does Colin Smyth think that there is scope for varying fares, so that there could be a slightly higher fare at peak times, to try to even out demand?
Colin Smyth Lab
I do not think that that would go down particularly well with the people who would be looking at the prospect of higher fares. The issue is that the RET, whi...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Will Colin Smyth take an intervention?
Colin Smyth Lab
I will, if I have time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You have not, really.
Colin Smyth Lab
Overall, the Government does not seem to recognise that ferries—as all public transport does—provide a vital public service. That lack of recognition is summ...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
The Scottish Green Party will support the Conservative motion tonight. It is very difficult to take issue with it, although I always try to take issue with e...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
Excuse me, Mr Finnie. Could you pull your microphone towards you a wee bit?
John Finnie Green
We heard where the Conservatives are really coming from when we heard their references to tendering. I certainly align myself with Colin Smyth’s comments abo...