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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 30 October 2018

30 Oct 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Digital Inclusion
Forbes, Kate SNP Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch Watch on SPTV

Good. Mandy, who uses a tablet, was the recipient of the service user achievement award for pioneering the system by tutoring her neighbours in the technology that CleverCogs uses, building a better sense of community and improving wellbeing. I asked her what she uses her tablet for, and she told me that she is the champion online bowler in her care home, that she listens regularly to Elvis on repeat on YouTube and that she FaceTimes her sister. Further, in terms of improving independence, because her tablet is linked to her caseworkers’ phones, she can use it to contact them. That gives her the control that she needs. The system is personalised to her, it is intuitive and she can even pick what she is going to eat for lunch, because the kitchen staff add the menu online.

CleverCogs and systems like it are building up digital skills among the older and disabled population. They give them more independence and control over their lives, and more and more people are getting online.

David and Mandy have clearly made great changes in their lives and the lives of others. Their experiences are documented in a report that was published today by the Carnegie UK Trust called “Living Digitally—An evaluation of the CleverCogs digital care and support system”. The results of that independent research back up the anecdotes and stories that I have heard from Mandy and David, and from many others. They clearly demonstrate the impact that digital participation can have. Participants in the study reported increased life satisfaction; most significantly, the life satisfaction of people aged 55 to 64 rose significantly. There were also improvements in the number of people accessing useful health information, with several indicators of improved levels of independence in customers’ daily living. That is a critically important point for me, as someone who believes strongly that Scotland can be at the forefront of the digital revolution.

We are seeing the enormous potential for our economy and our society in ensuring that our people have digital skills, that our businesses, third sector and public sector organisations use digital better, and that Scotland has the workforce, the expertise, the talent and the technology to enable us to share all of that with the rest of the world. However, at the end of the day, it comes back to the individuals whose lives are transformed. We want to create a digital society that is not just for those who can already access it, and we want to find new ways to tackle all the issues that affect digital participation.

Incidentally, that work must include connectivity, accessibility and affordability. Our commitment to provide access to superfast broadband for each and every home and business in Scotland is the most ambitious of any target across the United Kingdom. We set that target because we see the importance of two issues. We want to ensure that, first, the infrastructure does not exclude anybody and, secondly, once the infrastructure is in place, we are equally ambitious in supporting people to be able to use it.

Some £600 million is being invested in the initial procurement of the reaching 100 per cent programme, which is the single largest investment in digital connectivity by any Government in the UK.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
Our next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-14509, in the name of Kate Forbes, on a digital society for all: working together to maximise the benefit...
The Minister for Public Finance and Digital Economy (Kate Forbes) SNP
I am pleased to debate how Scotland can become a digital society for all and how we are already well on our way to doing so. I thank the members who signed t...
The Minister for Business, Fair Work and Skills (Jamie Hepburn) SNP
She did.
Kate Forbes SNP
Good. Mandy, who uses a tablet, was the recipient of the service user achievement award for pioneering the system by tutoring her neighbours in the technolog...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
My point is less about the delivery of the infrastructure and more about the skills that are required to use it. If it is true that one in five people in Sco...
Kate Forbes SNP
That is a vitally important point. Digital skills are not just something that we should deliver to a particular section of the society. By the time that we g...
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I take this somewhat belated opportunity to welcome Kate Forbes to the front bench. Representing my home constituency, she will be well aware of the problems...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
The member appears to have cast doubt on the delivery of the R100 programme to 100 per cent of Scottish premises by 2021. On what basis does he claim that on...
Donald Cameron Con
Quite simply, that is based on the Audit Scotland report that I mentioned. I will move on and provide some local examples. It is easy to talk about digital ...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome Kate Forbes to her new ministerial role and wish her well. Today, almost every aspect of society has been transformed by technological advancement...
Kate Forbes SNP
I recognise the comments that the member has made about infrastructure. What is his view on how we ensure that, where there is adequate infrastructure, those...
Colin Smyth Lab
Kate Forbes raises a very important point, which I will deal with in my speech. A large number of groups, whether it is because of income, disability, age or...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
As others have done, I welcome Kate Forbes to her position. I think that this is the first time that I have been in a debate with her in her new role in the ...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
On behalf of the Liberal Democrats, I welcome Kate Forbes to her new role. We wish her well because she knows, as we all do, that delivering the Scottish Gov...
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
What a shame.
Mike Rumbles LD
I point out to Mr Lyle that, in my amendment, I was trying to be helpful to the Scottish Government. Its target is for 100 per cent coverage by December 2021...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
No, it was not.
Mike Rumbles LD
I have read the manifesto; I am not sure whether the member has done so. I am sure that the Scottish Government could bring forward the date, if it had the ...
Kate Forbes SNP
Like Mike Rumbles, I believe that universal connectivity is vital. However, my question to him, which is put in a constructive spirit, is about the fact that...
Mike Rumbles LD
The minister makes a good point. In the same spirit, I say that there is no point in educating people and helping them if they cannot access the service firs...
Richard Lyle SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Mike Rumbles LD
Not on this point. I would rather make my point first; I am running out of time.
Richard Lyle SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
Mr Lyle, please sit down.
Mike Rumbles LD
If I had more time, I would be delighted to.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Lyle, the member has said that he does not wish to take an intervention. Please respect that.
Mike Rumbles LD
I say to Richard Lyle that I would certainly take his intervention if I had more time. As I was saying, there is no need to remind me that this is a reserve...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to the open debate. Speeches should be of up to six minutes, please. We are a bit pushed for time; no extra time can be allowed. 15:37
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in today’s debate as a representative of the South Scotland region, which is a rural area that has faced challenges in digital competen...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome Kate Forbes to her role. The renewed focus on the digital economy, connectivity and digital inclusion is welcomed by the Conservatives. After I was...