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Meeting of the Parliament 12 September 2018

12 Sep 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Suicide Prevention

As members have heard, 680 Scots lost their lives by suicide last year. That total was lower than in previous years, but Samaritans has told us that last year, for the third year running, deaths by suicides in Scotland increased for young men aged between 15 and 24. As we have heard, the suicide rate for men in Scotland was more than three times the rate for women, with 77 per cent of suicides being men.

The action plan says that suicide rates have fallen for children and young people, but also that self-reporting on mental wellbeing among young girls in Scotland has worsened.

I have asked friends, colleagues and family what they believe to be the single biggest killer of men under 50 in the UK. They have said that it is heart disease or lung cancer, or they have asked whether it is dementia. All have been surprised to learn that the answer is, in fact, suicide.

The answer is all the more shocking when we consider that suicide is preventable; it is not inevitable. I know that the Parliament agrees that one suicide is too many, but a Samaritans poll that was conducted earlier this year showed that 61 per cent of people in Scotland have been affected by suicide. Twenty-nine per cent have experienced the suicide of a friend or family member or have supported someone who was dealing with suicidal thoughts.

We would seek to intervene if a friend or colleague was in poor physical health, and we need to know how to help someone who is dealing with suicidal thoughts.

The debate will—rightly—focus further on the need for support to be available for our young people as and where they need it. SAMH has pointed out that that is about not only teaching staff but all school staff. Its recent survey found that two thirds of teachers had not received sufficient mental health training and that the majority of non-teaching staff had received no such training.

The action plan’s recognition that CAMHS need to be reformed is welcome and overdue. The Scottish Youth Parliament, the children and young people’s mental health task force and the youth commission on mental health will all be involved. In this year of young people, work is going on with the see me campaign, and the cross-party group on children and young people has recently done work on mental health. That has a role to play in ensuring that we get this right for every child. When Fulton MacGregor was chairing the cross-party group, it issued a report that is well worth reading. It pointed out that,

“Under the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child ... children and young people have a right to good health. However, this report highlights that we are failing to uphold this right and shows the scale of the problem we face in relation to children and young people’s mental health. With three children in every class experiencing a diagnosable mental health problem by the age of 16, we must do better.”

I welcome the recognition of that. The programme for government proposed the incorporation of the principles of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, which is essential.

Like others, I thank SAMH, Samaritans and Stonewall for their briefings. All those organisations welcome the plan, but they all have questions about it, too. SAMH asks:

“Can the Government confirm that the new Scottish mental health and suicide prevention training program includes provision of skills to actively intervene where someone is experiencing thoughts of suicide?”

It also asks whether the Government intends to retain applied suicide intervention skills training, on which I would welcome the minister’s comments.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-13847, in the name of Clare Haughey, on “Scotland’s Suicide Prevention Action Plan: Every Life Matters”. ...
The Minister for Mental Health (Clare Haughey) SNP
It is of particular importance to me personally that my first debate as Minister for Mental Health is on the subject of suicide prevention. This is a subject...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
This is an issue that affects all parts of and all communities in the country. Does the minister accept that the impact of a suicide can be particularly prof...
Clare Haughey SNP
I will certainly go on to talk about some of the training that is part of the action plan. I fully acknowledge what Liam McArthur said about the impact of su...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I welcome the introduction of the leadership group. One of the issues that concerns me and stakeholders outside the Parliament is legacy and what comes next....
Clare Haughey SNP
If the member lets me progress a little bit further, I will explain a bit more about what the leadership group will do. I am delighted to say that Rose Fitz...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
Before I call Annie Wells, I remind members who wish to speak in the debate that it is helpful if they press their request-to-speak buttons; otherwise they w...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I welcome Clare Haughey to her new role as minister. I look forward to working with her during the coming months and years on a very important topic. We owe...
Clare Haughey SNP
To clarify, an additional £3 million of suicide prevention moneys is going into the leadership group to assist with its work. The group will publish a work p...
Annie Wells Con
I thank the minister for her intervention, because I am just coming on to the £3 million additional investment. Although initial expectations were that the £...
Clare Haughey SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Annie Wells Con
No, thank you. I want to make progress. I have put written questions to the Scottish Government, and I am describing the answers that I have received. I wou...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Scottish Labour welcomes the opportunity to debate suicide prevention, following world suicide prevention day 2018 on Monday 10 September. I thank every orga...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
It gives me great pride to open for the Liberal Democrats this afternoon. I will take a moment to welcome Clare Haughey to the ministerial office that she no...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I remind members to use full names in the chamber. Friendly though you may be, Mr Cole-Hamilton, you know that. 15:18
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
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Clare Haughey SNP
One of the leadership group’s actions will be to develop, by May next year, a training package that will apply across the country. Alison Johnstone mentioned...
Alison Johnstone Green
I thank the minister for her intervention. We also welcome the additional £3 million, but Samaritans says that, “Whilst the ambition and scope ... of the P...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
I very much welcome the opportunity to contribute to the debate this afternoon and to talk about the strategy that the Scottish Government has produced. I li...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. Although we have made great strides in breaking down the stigma of poor mental health, suicide remains a di...
Angela Constance (Almond Valley) (SNP) SNP
It is a privilege to participate in today’s debate. I am in no doubt that, as others have reflected, suicide will have touched all our lives in many ways, wh...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I welcome Clare Haughey to her post, and I wish her well in her future endeavours. More than 40 years ago, as a fresh-faced young man in my early 20s, I joi...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
It is a pleasure to speak in this afternoon’s debate on “Scotland’s Suicide Prevention Action Plan: Every Life Matters”. It is also quite humbling. Much of t...
Bill Bowman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
As we go through this debate, certain topics are mentioned by many speakers. I welcome the suicide prevention action plan, with its 10 action points. In the...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to be able to speak in today’s debate. I remind Parliament that I am a nurse and that I am deputy convener of the Health and Sport Committee. I...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
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Emma Harper SNP
I am sure that there are tools that have been used in the past that are now a bit out of date, but it is important to use whatever tools get people to talk. ...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am grateful to the Presiding Officer for permission to be excused for the earlier part of the debate, which allowed me to stick to a prior engagement with ...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to return to an issue that I first brought to the chamber in 1999. Progress has been made since I asked that first question...
Maurice Corry (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer, for this opportunity to speak on the significant matter of suicide prevention, which affects many people throughout Scotland. ...