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Meeting of the Parliament 23 May 2018

23 May 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Housing

It would have been easy to lodge a motion on housing attacking sluggish house building under the Scottish National Party. A sector that is flatlining and an obsession with ill-defined affordable housing—whatever that means—would indeed be worthy of this Parliament’s time, but there are other issues in housing that also deserve our attention, and I want to concentrate today on our current housing stock.

By 2050, 80 per cent of our current homes will still be in use. In Scotland, a quarter of all domestic dwellings are tenements, and 38 per cent of those are pre-1919 buildings. According to the Scottish house condition survey of 2016, 6 per cent of all properties need extensive repairs, 28 per cent require urgent repairs and 48 per cent have disrepair to critical elements. Further, 5 per cent of pre-1919 properties have critical, urgent and extensive disrepair.

Members across the chamber have realised that we need to act. A number of us got together and formed a working group—that is different from a cross-party group, as it is a group with work to do. In January, Ben Macpherson led a members’ business debate on this issue. It was consensual but, of course, there was no vote. That is why, today, we wanted to give Parliament the chance to say that it thinks that something should be done.

When we talk about tenements, we are talking about buildings in common ownership, and we could mean any block of flats of any age or one of those four-in-a-block buildings. In such buildings, problems arise because the ownership and the responsibility for the properties is shared. Someone who lives on the ground floor of a four-storey block that has a roof that needs work is not going to be happy to pay for that work, even though it is their roof, too. Very often, basic maintenance is not carried out. Gutters are not cleaned, checks are not done, so problems mount—and so do the bills.

Councils have powers to ensure that buildings are kept up to scratch but, with one or two exceptions, they do not use them. We are standing at a condition cliff edge, and something has to change. We think that it is inevitable that there will have to be legislative changes, so it is good to see that, in its amendment, the Scottish Government agrees that there should be a review.

The Scottish Federation of Housing Associations has said that the issue is of “real concern” and that

“there is no clear legal requirement for tenement flat owners to fund the maintenance and report of common parts”.

There have been some good ideas. The Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors mooted the idea of buildings having regular health checks. We agree with RICS, and the Government amendment backs looking at that.

We also think that factors will have to play a part. That is where we come to the second part of the motion, which would be left untouched by the Government amendment. We back that amendment. If we are to have mandatory factoring, we must have a system that ensures that factors perform well and are struck off if they do not. The Property Factors (Scotland) Act 2011 provides for the performance of factors to be regulated and for them to comply with the code of conduct. If factors do not measure up, residents can appeal to the First-tier Tribunal for Scotland housing and property chamber. Since 2013, that tribunal has issued 169 enforcement orders against factoring companies. One in five of those orders has never been complied with. Last week, Kevin Stewart told the Parliament that just two property factors have been removed from the register since 2013 as a result of having failed to comply with the code and the enforcement orders. Five factors have been removed for technical reasons.

A number of factoring firms are repeat offenders, and there have been multiple complaints and rulings against them. Apex Property Factor has had 13 hearings and 10 rulings against it. Charles White Ltd has had 23 hearings and 19 rulings against it. James Gibb Property Management has had 17 hearings and 13 rulings against it. They are only examples. There is no system in place to flag up repeat offenders. Firms just have to comply with an order, and they can then carry on as before. That must be wrong.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-12342, in the name of Graham Simpson, on housing. 15:52
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
It would have been easy to lodge a motion on housing attacking sluggish house building under the Scottish National Party. A sector that is flatlining and an ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
I agree with Graham Simpson’s point that factors need to behave properly, but does he agree that it is useful to have a factor or an organisation looking aft...
Graham Simpson Con
Yes. I do not disagree with that at all, but we need to ensure that they operate properly. I do not want to give the impression that we are talking about an...
The Minister for Local Government and Housing (Kevin Stewart) SNP
I am pleased to have the opportunity to welcome and speak in this debate that Graham Simpson has brought forward on the important issue of tenement property ...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Should the proposals coming forth from that cross-party working group include one on the need for primary legislation, will the Government commit to bringing...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Yes. We are committed to keeping our policy frameworks and legislation under review to ensure that everyone lives in a good-quality home. In terms of existi...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Can the minister clarify which local authorities have used and which have not used the legislation that he mentioned?
Kevin Stewart SNP
I do not have that answer for Mr Johnson off the top of my head, but I am more than willing to provide him with that information. Glasgow City Council is us...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the debate on Graham Simpson’s motion. Tenement property is a complex subject, on which the Parliament has made significant progress, but the law ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Andy Wightman, who has up to four minutes. 16:12
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
I thank Graham Simpson for using Conservative Party business time to propose a motion on a topic that is designed to achieve broad agreement across the chamb...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Four minutes.
Andy Wightman Green
Thank you. Much of the flatted property in Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee was built more than a century ago. With proper refurbishment and mainte...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
It is always hard to follow Andy Wightman in a debate such as this. I am very much one of those members of the Scottish Parliament who learns at the knee of ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I ask everyone to be quiet. I think that Mr Wightman would like to hear this. Laughter.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Despite their outburst, I am grateful to Conservative members for bringing today’s motion before us. Housing is important. I am also gratified to hear that t...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank members for their speeches so far and remind everyone that I was a councillor at the City of Edinburgh Council for 12 years. For all of that period, ...
Ben Macpherson (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) SNP
I, too, very much welcome the use of this time for this important debate, which builds on the momentum of the Tenements (Scotland) Act 2004, the Housing (Sco...
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
I call Daniel Johnson, to be followed by Gordon Lindhurst. 16:29
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
It is with huge pleasure that I stand to speak in this debate after Graham Simpson, Ben Macpherson and Andy Wightman. I am sure that others from the working ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Richard Lyle, to be followed by Gordon Lindhurst.
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
Oh!
The Presiding Officer NPA
Did I get that the wrong way round? Okay—I call Gordon Lindhurst, to be followed by Richard Lyle.
Richard Lyle SNP
I am ready, Presiding Officer.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Richard Lyle is ready, so we will let him speak. Laughter. 16:34
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I welcome the opportunity to contribute to a debate on an issue with which I am very familiar, having served as a councillor on...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I thank Mr Lyle for being ready to speak. Gordon Lindhurst is next. 16:38
Gordon Lindhurst (Lothian) (Con) Con
It is, indeed, a delight to be allowed an opportunity to speak in the debate. I am not sure whether I can match Richard Lyle’s speech; I certainly cannot mat...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
As others have said, there is a lot in the Conservative motion that I can agree with—not least the basic statement of the fact that we have a problem with co...