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Meeting of the Parliament 23 May 2018

23 May 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Education (Subject Choices)

Thank you, Presiding Officer. I had not forgotten, and I rise to move the amendment in my name.

This is an important issue, but it is not a new one. The narrowing of the curriculum and the fall in attainment in S4 was raised by Kezia Dugdale in May 2015 at First Minister’s questions and again in June of the same year. The evidence, which has been meticulously gathered from official sources and collated and analysed by Jim Scott, existed even then. However, the First Minister chose not to listen. She tried to suggest that Professor Scott did not know the difference between enrolments and pupil numbers. She wrote the whole thing off as “constant SNP bashing.” However, it was not, and three years on, the evidence has mounted on narrowing of the curriculum in our schools.

The number of schools allowing pupils to study more than six subjects in S4 has fallen to 43 per cent, and only 11 per cent now allow eight subjects. The numbers are stark, but so are the consequences: that narrowing of the curriculum is pushing some subjects out of schools altogether. Nothing will convince me that that was an intended consequence of the great education debate or of curriculum for excellence.

As Liz Smith said, modern languages are being particularly badly affected. It is no coincidence that last year the number of young people who gained a language qualification was 50 per cent lower than the number who did so in 2007. Gaelic, to which all of us in Parliament committed our support only a couple of weeks ago, was one of the subjects that Professor Scott identified as being at risk years ago.

This time, the education secretary has countered with an amendment of positive statistics that are true, but which hide, rather than contradict, the problem. High-achieving pupils who are going to do five or six highers will still do five or six highers; the point is that they will be choosing those highers from a narrower S4 base and their chances of doing three sciences or two modern languages are being undermined, or even denied in some schools, which has a knock-on effect on university course choice.

As for the rather contrived statistic in the Government amendment about the faster increase in

“the proportion of young people in the most deprived areas getting one or more qualifications at ... levels 4, 5 and 6”,

it is true, but it is driven largely by the fact that more pupils at the wealthier end move on to level 7 qualifications.

As has been pointed out, the number of exam passes by S4 pupils has fallen by 140,000 since the new exams were introduced. The number of national 5 entries per learner has declined by 20 per cent, and the pass rate for national 5 has fallen from 91.3 per cent in 2013 to 79.5 per cent. Those who leave school with only national 4 and 5 qualifications can choose and sit fewer subjects, and they are achieving fewer passes.

The very SQA tables from which Mr Swinney’s figure is derived show that since 2013 the percentage of pupils who leave school with no qualifications at all is rising, especially in the lower-income deciles. It is not a big rise, but it is the reversal of a 50-year historical trend. Comprehensive schools, awards for all and standard grades turned a school system that had left 70 per cent of leavers with nothing into one of which we could be proud, and in which every pupil’s achievement was recognised. Those achievements matter. S4 leavers deserve the best from our schools, just as the high flyers with the higher pass rates do.

No one is arguing that there is a conspiracy. However, there are unintended consequences of the new exams coupled with teacher shortages and tight budgets, and those consequences are impacting on children who are at the wrong side of the attainment gap. The education secretary simply must face up to that.

Parents do not understand what is going on: they do not understand why their children’s choices are so constrained and they do not understand why choice depends so heavily on the school that their child attends. My constituency has few high schools—five—but some of those schools offer six subjects at S4, some offer seven and some offer eight.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-12358, in the name of Liz Smith, on education: subject choices.
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Few decisions are more important to any young person at school than those that they make about subject choices. What they decide defines their future career....
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call John Swinney to speak to and move amendment S5M-12358.4. 14:48
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (John Swinney) SNP
I welcome this debate and I want to be as helpful as I can in discussing the substantive issues that Liz Smith raises. The reason for that is that this whole...
Liz Smith Con
If that is correct, there ought to be a good progression into S4. However, at the moment, pupils are doing a considerable number of subjects in breadth in S1...
John Swinney SNP
That brings me on to the other substantive point that I want to make. The focus on the breadth of learning throughout primary school and the first years of s...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
John Swinney SNP
If Mr Mundell will forgive me, I will not take an intervention. I have quite a lot of ground to cover. That may well mean that learners take fewer subjects ...
Liz Smith Con
Is the cabinet secretary satisfied that those students in S4 are getting a fair deal when it comes to subject choice?
John Swinney SNP
That will be a judgment that is arrived at in individual schools on the basis of the curriculum model that they want to take forward, and that is the policy ...
Oliver Mundell Con
At a basic level, does the cabinet secretary accept that, if a pupil drops a subject because they are unable to take it in S4, they will be less likely to ta...
John Swinney SNP
Not necessarily, because young people will have established stronger foundations in a higher and more demanding broad general education than would have been ...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
John Swinney SNP
I will have to make some more progress.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can give you the time back, cabinet secretary.
John Swinney SNP
I give way to Jenny Marra.
Jenny Marra Lab
The cabinet secretary suggested that decisions about course choice are available on a school-by-school basis, but Dundee City Council’s curriculum guidelines...
John Swinney SNP
That gets us to the nub of the reform agenda that I am interested in taking forward. I am glad that Ms Marra is a supporter of that agenda. I believe that th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much. I have to say that I am running out of spare time, but I thought that it was important to allow interventions that were direct questions...
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I have not said what you are doing yet. I call Iain Gray to speak to and move amendment S5M-12358.1—just in case you had forgotten, Mr Gray. 14:57
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I had not forgotten, and I rise to move the amendment in my name. This is an important issue, but it is not a new one. The nar...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must conclude with this sentence.
Iain Gray Lab
Parents feel that pupils from more affluent communities are being offered more choice and more chances, which can only exacerbate the attainment gap. It is n...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sorry: in these short debates, time is very tight. There will now be a tight four minutes for all speeches. 15:02
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
The need to ensure that Scotland’s schools provide an inclusive learning environment that enables all young people to excel is an obvious point of consensus,...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I will rescue you there. It is time to sit down. 15:06
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
The debate that Liz Smith has brought is about subject choice. In some ways, I speak more as a father than I do as an MSP on the issue, because my oldest chi...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
First, I welcome Liz Smith’s remarks. She outlined in great detail why this debate is an important one. On these benches, we have sought answers from the Sc...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
I rise to speak somewhat dismayed at some of the arguments that are being used in the chamber this afternoon. I served on the Education and Culture Committee...