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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 28 February 2018

28 Feb 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Early Years and Childcare

I am pleased to have the opportunity to bring the motion to the chamber. Early learning and childcare is one of the most important areas for any Government, because it not only shapes the lives of whole generations but creates the foundation for Scotland’s future.

High-quality early learning can play a key role in reducing the attainment gap by giving all Scotland’s children a level playing field on which to build their learning. There is compelling evidence to show that early access to high-quality early learning and childcare can significantly reduce the impact of socioeconomic disadvantage before starting school.

High-quality early learning provides nurturing, stimulating experiences that help children to grow and develop. It can also support parents, particularly mothers, to access education, training and work, as well as provide support to vulnerable families.

The provision of early learning and childcare is, quite simply, a policy that no one would want to oppose. It is an investment in the very fabric of our society, which is why I have brought this debate to the chamber today.

The Scottish Government has, in its words, set out

“the most ambitious plans to extend childcare and early learning that the Parliament has ever seen.”—[Official Report, 22 February 2018; c 15.]

However, it did so without undertaking the level of planning and consultation that might reasonably have been expected, thereby creating significant challenges to its flagship policy.

Today is an opportunity to explore those challenges in what I hope will be a constructive and thoughtful manner. Today is about ensuring that the issues raised in the joint report issued by the Accounts Commission and the Auditor General are scrutinised and that we, in this chamber, and perhaps more important, those in local authorities and nurseries, as well as the childminders and the parents who are trying to navigate their way through what is being offered, ensure that the end result is something to be celebrated.

I will cover a number of the issues raised in the report and in my visits to local authority and private nurseries and my many conversations with early years practitioners and childminders.

On Thursday last week, the First Minister told the Parliament that

“we delivered”

the commitment

“on 600 hours when many people across the chamber were sceptical that we would do so.”

She also said:

“We delivered it; we have shown a track record in delivering expanded childcare, and we are on track to deliver the next expansion.”—[Official Report, 22 February 2018; c 21, 15.]

However, the report by the Accounts Commission and the Auditor General states:

“The Scottish Government failed to set out clearly the improved outcomes for children and parents that the expansion to 600 hours was designed to achieve”.

Furthermore,

“There is a lack of evidence that increasing funded hours in the way that the Scottish Government has done will deliver improved outcomes”.

I therefore ask the minister to say, when she comes to speak, how she is measuring the success of the 600 hours roll-out. How do we know that it is being delivered and has been a success?

It is clear to me that the Scottish Government failed to set out clearly the improved outcomes for children and parents that the expansion was meant to achieve and how it would assess the impact of that additional investment. There were no measures to indicate success, nor was the baseline data available. Those basic steps should have been addressed in 2014, if not earlier. It appears that those issues have carried over to the 1,140 hours expansion, with a recent freedom of information request from Reform Scotland revealing that

“the Scottish Government has confirmed that it does not know how many children are currently eligible and entitled to pre-school provision but are unable to access it or are on a waiting list.”

In addition, research by the Scottish Government, the National Day Nurseries Association and fair funding for our kids has found that one in five children is missing out on their current funded hours, yet the Scottish Government claims that there is 97 per cent registration for funded childcare. Are we talking about registration or childcare that is being accessed and delivered? When planning an expansion on this scale, should not the Scottish Government start by getting those essential facts right? I say that not because we want to pull them up on it or because we want to make an issue of it, but because, if we do not get the expansion right, we are going to get it wrong for our children—a generation of children who will not get a second opportunity.

The Scottish Government needs to be clear about the priority for this policy. Is it for children, is it for parents or is it for both? In its current state, it largely fails to achieve the outcomes for both. In January, the Scottish Government published an initial evaluation of the expansion of early learning, in which it stated:

“The expansion from 475 to 600 hours in 2014”

is

“not expected to lead to a measurable change in children’s outcomes.”

We have seen that mirrored in parents’ responses to the expansion, particularly around flexibility, accessibility and payment. Research by fair funding for our kids has found that, after the implementation of the expansion to 600 hours, nine out of 10 parents who want to change their working situation said that their main barrier is lack of appropriate childcare.

The Scottish Government estimates that the cost of delivering the 1,140 hours of early learning and childcare will be about £840 million a year. Councils, on the other hand, have placed their initial estimate for the expansion at about £1 billion a year. That is far higher than the Scottish Government’s estimate. It raises serious questions about the feasibility of the policy and risks councils being left to deal with a £160 million black hole.

To add to the confusion on funding, there is a big difference between what the Scottish Government and local authorities are saying is needed for essential changes to childcare infrastructure. Local authorities have said that they need to set aside £690 million of capital funding between 2019 and 2020, but the Scottish Government has allocated only £400 million for that purpose. At a time when councils across the country are feeling pressure on their budgets, they will struggle to make up the shortfall.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-10650, in the name of Michelle Ballantyne, on early years and childcare. 14:47
Michelle Ballantyne (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I am pleased to have the opportunity to bring the motion to the chamber. Early learning and childcare is one of the most important areas for any Government, ...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
If Michelle Ballantyne is seriously concerned about funding, will she say how her party would have funded the policy, given that there is going to be another...
Michelle Ballantyne Con
If Stuart McMillan had taken the time to read what our manifesto says about our approach, he would have found that we would not have gone about things in the...
The Minister for Childcare and Early Years (Maree Todd) SNP
I can absolutely understand why the member is concerned, because in England, where the Tories are in charge, the NDNA has said about the expansion process: ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That is a good point, but it was a long intervention, so I will give you the time back, Ms Ballantyne.
Michelle Ballantyne Con
I have two points to make in response to that. If the minister, having read about the issue, feels that there are real issues south of the border, that shoul...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Maree Todd to speak to and move amendment S5M-10650.3. 15:02
The Minister for Childcare and Early Years (Maree Todd) SNP
The expansion of funded early learning and childcare will transform our children’s life chances. By 2020, we will provide all three and four-year-olds and el...
Michelle Ballantyne Con
Can the minister tell me how, and on the basis of what evidence, the Government is on track to deliver?
Maree Todd SNP
Audit Scotland has looked at the process at a point when there is still some distance between our figures and local authority figures. It is right and proper...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
No members deny that there are a lot of good things in the report, particularly on the Scottish Government’s strategic objectives. However, the Scottish Gove...
Maree Todd SNP
There is a huge body of evidence from around the world on how delivering such provision closes the attainment gap. Is Liz Smith suggesting that we wait longe...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
The feedback that I have been getting from parents is that childcare provision is inflexible. Does the minister agree that that inflexibility is preventing w...
Maree Todd SNP
The issue is that the number of hours is limited to 600, which is precisely why we are expanding the number to 1,140 hours. We are committed to fully fundin...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
The minister made a point about the eligibility of two-year-olds. A quarter of two-year-olds are eligible for free childcare but, according to the Audit Scot...
Maree Todd SNP
There are a number of challenges involved in identifying the eligible two-year-olds and targeting the offering to their families. We are working with local a...
Daniel Johnson Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Maree Todd SNP
I am afraid that I am in my final minute. We estimate that the combined effect of that investment will have supported more than 2,000 additional practitione...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am currently giving speakers time back if they take interventions, but I warn members that there are only a few minutes left to spare. I am sorry to say th...
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I expect to get the time back from your intervention—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Now, now. Never challenge or have a go at the chair.
Iain Gray Lab
There is a certain irony in our having this debate on a day when the childcare arrangements of families across most of Scotland have collapsed under the weig...
John Swinney SNP
I am interested in what Mr Gray thinks the Government should have done in identifying the purpose of the measure as being either to improve outcomes for chil...
Iain Gray Lab
My judgment is that both are important, as I think that Mr Swinney agrees, but primarily this is about improved educational outcomes for children and address...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must conclude.
Iain Gray Lab
The Government should listen—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No. Please conclude, Mr Gray—I am moving on.
Iain Gray Lab
The Government should listen and take urgent action.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You were given an extra minute and the clock did not start, in fact, until you stood up to speak, so I was quite generous. Oliver Mundell is next, to be foll...