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Meeting of the Parliament 20 December 2017

20 Dec 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Wild Animals in Travelling Circuses (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

I am sure that I speak for all members of the committee when I say that I am pleased to see the bill finally being put to sleep at the end of stage 3, not least because the issues relating to the use of wild animals in circuses have been the subject of deliberation by campaigners, policy makers and legislators for decades. As we know, part of the existing framework for regulation in this area is covered by the Performing Animals (Regulation) Act 1925, and the issue was raised again in responses during the passage of the Scottish Government’s Animal Health and Welfare (Scotland) Act 2006.

There are some clear reasons why the scope of the bill that we are debating today has been purposely focused on wild animals in travelling circuses, but it is mainly because the use of wild animals in travelling circuses involves animals whose nature is still genetically and behaviourally hardwired; the performance of behaviours or tricks for entertainment that are not natural behaviours; and inadequate temporary or mobile accommodation that does not allow animals to act naturally. It is also because there is little or no educational or conservation value in such animals’ appearance in a travelling circus. All those issues combine to present a cumulative ethical challenge to Scottish society, giving strong ethical reasons for the ban.

I am delighted that Scotland is leading the way on improving animal welfare, not just through this bill but through plans to develop new licensing requirements to protect the welfare of wild and domestic animals that are used for public performances or display in circumstances that are not covered by the bill. I understand that that will be achieved through a Scottish statutory instrument under the 2006 act, which will require further consultation and an affirmative resolution. There is more work to do, although that legislation is intended to apply to all wild and domestic animal displays or performances except for those that are already banned under the bill or those taking place in zoos that are already licensed under zoo legislation. Hopefully, that means that there will be no gaps once the legislation is introduced.

At the start of the passage of this bill, concerns were voiced by those who felt that a more comprehensive approach would be preferable to what they saw as the piecemeal approach that was being taken. Andrew Mitchell from the City of Edinburgh Council called for there to be one piece of legislation. However, it was acknowledged, not least by Nicola O’Brien of the Captive Animals Protection Society, that a comprehensive review of legislation would be a lengthy process, and that taking action now would have more immediate impact. I am content that the so-called piecemeal action is delivering the desired outcome much more quickly than would otherwise have been the case. The bill will enable the ban to be put in place immediately.

Colin Smyth raised the issue of inspections and enforcement. Earlier in the process, I had concerns about that, but I am satisfied that we have got it right at this stage.

I was pleased to see the inclusion of children and young people in the consultation process; the committee did not just go through a box-ticking exercise, but ensured that their opinions were heard. One of the key ethical concerns on which the bill is based includes the adverse impact that seeing wild animals in travelling circuses might have on children and young people, with regard to the development of respectful and responsible attitudes to animals in general. An overwhelming majority of respondents to the Scottish Government’s consultation—94.7 per cent—agreed that that was a concern, which is why the committee identified the importance of engaging with children and young people on the issue. The committee convener, Graeme Dey, alluded to that. As a result, 1,045 children and young people were asked, through the Scottish Parliament education service, whether it should be an offence to use wild animals in travelling circuses, and 815 responded in favour of a ban. In addition, an online survey that was conducted with Young Scot last September asked young people aged 11 to 25 the same question. Some 80 per cent of the respondents agreed or strongly agreed with the proposed ban, and 57 per cent agreed or strongly agreed that seeing wild animals in travelling circuses would make young people respect them less.

Judging by the verdict of the next generation of decision makers, it is clear that we have taken the right steps to tackle this important ethical issue in the most timely way possible. I am pleased that we are leading the way in the UK.

16:19  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
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The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP
I am pleased to open this brief debate. At the outset, I thank all stakeholders who provided evidence and the committee members involved for their detailed a...
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
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It has to be very brief, Mr Scott, as the cabinet secretary is over her time.
John Scott Con
Thank you. Will the guidance be issued timeously?
Roseanna Cunningham SNP
Yes, it will. I move, That the Parliament agrees that the Wild Animals in Travelling Circuses (Scotland) Bill be passed. 15:48
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I know that there is more of that to come. 15:52
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
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Graeme Dey (Angus South) (SNP) SNP
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Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
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Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
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Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
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Angus MacDonald (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP
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Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Roseanna Cunningham SNP
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John Scott Con
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Roseanna Cunningham SNP
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Mark Ruskell Green
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Roseanna Cunningham SNP
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