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Meeting of the Parliament 27 September 2017

27 Sep 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
City of Culture Bids (Paisley and Dundee)

I thank Fiona Hyslop for her motion. My Scottish Conservative colleagues and I are grateful for the opportunity to show our party’s support for Paisley and Dundee. It is important that MSPs show that support, because the bids are about more than just securing titles: they are a sign to the world that Scotland is ambitious and is determined to succeed in the 21st century.

Some members are fortunate to have a connection to either Paisley or Dundee; I am fortunate to have a strong connection to both. I was educated in Dundee, as was William Wallace, which my colleague Bill Bowman noted. In fact, I went to the same school as Wallace, albeit a mere 700 years after him. Our similarity ends there, although “Braveheart” is one of my favourite films.

Today, we have heard support from across the chamber for Paisley and Dundee. In her opening remarks, Fiona Hyslop outlined a tale of two cities, describing the bids as “committed, bold and ambitious”. My colleagues and other members have made eloquent cases for Dundee to be named European capital of culture. In a thoughtful and interesting speech, Alex Cole-Hamilton described Dundee as a “metropolis” where he went to shop and experience nightlife in the form of the sticky carpets of the Mardi Gras nightclub. I may have bumped into him there—but the less said about that, the better.

Graeme Dey’s first visit to Dundee took place in the year before I was born. He certainly showed his age, there. He spoke about the positive transformation of the city and urged us all to

“Be bold, be ambitious, be Dundee.”

Suffice it to say that the world would be poorer without Dundee’s cultural contributions, and there is a lot more to come. Dundee deserves to win, and I am more than happy to offer it any support that I can.

As an MSP for the West Scotland region, it is a great honour to be able to represent Paisley. When previously I spoke in the chamber about the Paisley 2021 bid, I said:

“Paisley deserves it ... Paisley needs it; and ... Scotland stands to benefit from it.”—[Official Report, 7 December 2016; c 78.]

I am more convinced of that now than ever. Take a stroll through Paisley’s streets and one will find architecture that would be at home in any European capital. Paisley is the home of the world-renowned Paisley pattern textile design—which I am sporting today on my tie, as members can see—and is the location of the formulation of the duty of care, which my colleague Liam Kerr mentioned. The legal joke did not go down so well in the chamber, but the point that Paisley has much to be proud of resonated. Neil Bibby spoke about his pride about having been born in and living in Paisley, as well as the economic benefits of the bid.

Ross Greer spoke about the radical movement and communism as well as rich cultural heritage. I was not sure whether the two were linked.

George Adam, who could hardly contain himself in his seat, looked forward to an “afternoon of positive Paisleyness”. He has had that. He acknowledged the challenges, but also the cultural heritage of the town, and he claimed that Paisley is

“the centre of the universe”.

Maurice Corry highlighted his links to Dundee and Paisley from serving in the Army in Dundee and his experience in the textile industry in Paisley.

Tom Arthur spoke about the benefits to the wider Renfrewshire area and urged us all to “start spreading the news”.

Paisley’s own Paolo Nutini has spoken of seeing

“the romance of the town”

and the real beauty of it. I could not agree with him more.

Dundee can be proud of its musical heritage, too. It was the launch pad for groups including the Average White Band and Snow Patrol, and is the home town of Ricky Ross and folk singers including the bard of Dundee, Michael Marra. I am sure that Jenny Marra would have mentioned her uncle, had she been able to be in the chamber today.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-07862, in the name of Fiona Hyslop, on recognising and supporting Paisley’s 2021 United Kingdom city of c...
The Cabinet Secretary for Culture, Tourism and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before I call the next speaker, I remind members that if they want to speak in the debate, there is a wee thing that they have to do: press their request-to-...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I am delighted to be speaking in the debate, and I am grateful to Fiona Hyslop for giving Parliament the opportunity to signal our support for the Paisley 20...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is a pleasure to open the debate on behalf of the Labour Party and speak in support of Paisley’s bid for UK city of culture 2021 and Dundee’s bid for Euro...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I understand why Paisley got the biggest hit in your speech, but I am afraid that you have run out of time for Dundee. I will not hold it against you.
Neil Bibby Lab
I wish Dundee and Paisley every success in their bids over the coming months.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sure that you do. We now move to the open debate, and we will have speeches of six minutes. 15:42
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
Scotland is incredibly fortunate to have a rich cultural heritage—one that is known, respected and enjoyed across the world. To see that recognised through t...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I grew up in a small farming village outside St Andrews in the 1980s and 1990s, so Dundee was a metropolis to me. Lying 14 miles to the north, it always held...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much. George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) rose—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I have not called you yet, Mr Adam. I know that you are dead keen. I call George Adam. 15:53
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. My calves were not coping too well, but I was poised to stand up. I am, of course, extremely pleased to take part in the debate...
Maurice Corry (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Gosh, Maurice Corry—follow that. In the footsteps of George Adam, I say well done. I was extremely pleased that Dundee was to go ahead with the events that...
Graeme Dey (Angus South) (SNP) SNP
I will at least attempt to make as strong a case for the city of discovery as George Adam made for Paisley. First, I offer a degree of context for my suppor...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Paisley on making the shortlist for the UK city of culture. The fact that it has progressed this far is testament to the strength of the bid, ...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Today, we are debating the fine cultural achievements of Paisley and Dundee—and quite right, too. First, I want to reference another great city, Glasgow, the...
Fiona Hyslop SNP
I think that one set of figures looks at the legacy from a 10-year perspective, while the other takes a shorter-term view. Both sets of figures show the impo...
Joan McAlpine SNP
I thank the minister for that clarification and for confirming that there is no massaging of the figures going on. Whatever the figures are, it is well estab...
Bill Bowman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Fiona Hyslop for bringing the debate to the chamber. It gives us an opportunity to show our support for two remarkable areas of Scotland and our appr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
For a moment I thought you were offering to pay. I call Tom Arthur, the last speaker in the open debate. 16:29
Tom Arthur (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) SNP
As someone who was born in Paisley, was brought up in nearby Barrhead and is one of Renfrewshire’s three constituency MSPs, I am delighted to have the opport...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Who was counting the Sinatra quotes? Lewis Macdonald will wind up for Labour and has seven minutes, and Maurice Golden will have eight minutes for his speech...
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Often in this place, we have to agree to differ—after all, that is the essence of parliamentary debate. Taking issue is an essential part of a modern democra...
Maurice Golden (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Fiona Hyslop for her motion. My Scottish Conservative colleagues and I are grateful for the opportunity to show our party’s support for Paisley and D...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
Given Maurice Golden’s earlier comments about Mr Dey, does he actually remember the Average White Band?
Maurice Golden Con
When I was doing my standard grade music short course, that was the answer to one of the questions. I was taught about the Average White Band, but did not li...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Joe FitzPatrick) SNP
I thank business managers across the chamber for agreeing not only that we should schedule this business but that we should have a motion to which we could a...
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Constitution (Derek Mackay) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
Of course.