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Meeting of the Parliament 27 September 2017

27 Sep 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
City of Culture Bids (Paisley and Dundee)

I grew up in a small farming village outside St Andrews in the 1980s and 1990s, so Dundee was a metropolis to me. Lying 14 miles to the north, it always held a certain kind of magnetism. It was where we went for Christmas shopping, to see pantomimes at the Rep or to go ice skating. My comics were authored in its bustling streets, and its swimming pool had the finest flumes on the eastern seaboard. It basked in seemingly endless sunshine, on the side of a river that we crossed more times than I can remember. Each time that we passed a tree hung with Jif lemon bottles to the side of the bridge, my sister and I would lisp out lines of McGonagall about the Tay below us and the whale that once got stuck there. We would talk about the ancient rail tragedy that endured in the city’s consciousness and local song. We would relive our memories of the day in 1986 when the RSS Discovery, one of the most significant vessels of scientific exploration ever built, returned home—to the captivated rapture of this eight-year-old boy.

In later years, I would return with equal regularity—but for very different reasons. I learned to drive there. The sticky carpets of the Mardi Gras represented the nearest nightclub to the bars of St Andrews where I learned to drink. It was at that time that I also learned to appreciate the very Dundonian sound of Michael Marra—uncle to Jenny Marra of this parish.

I would also work there, at Fairbridge, in Kemback Street, delivering independent living skills and exploring cultural identity through youth work with the hardest-to-reach young people in Dundee’s inner city. I reflect, in particular, on the Fairbridge totem pole, which was carved by young people affected by substance use and installed in Dudhope park as a lasting monument to the triumph of culture and art over the very worst of Dundee’s social challenges. I do not get there as much as I would like these days, and I regret that.

Dundee embodies Scotland’s transition from heavy industry to world-leading software development and from crushing deprivation to cultural enlightenment, as is evident in the work of the community arts centre and in the excitement about the opening of the V&A. It has always been a city of culture to me. It has shaped my future, as it has done Scotland’s future. As such, it deserves recognition as a city of culture on the international stage.

I turn my attention now to culture in the west. Good culture is always found in the west—I declare an interest: I have tickets to see Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds at the Hydro tonight—and I lend my voice the unanimous support offered in the chamber to Paisley in its bid to become UK city of culture.

To my shame, I know far less about Paisley than I do about Dundee. However, since I was first inducted into the Parliament, I have enjoyed the passion of George Adam’s soliloquies about the many assets and strengths of the community that he represents. He has done a grand job of persuading me of the town’s history, many attributes and ability to overcome and renew. The town has reared some of my closest friends and hosts a university that educated my party’s leader. It is a resilient and proud community that has left its mark on global fashion. It has certainly come a long way since 1697 and the last mass execution of witches in western Europe.

In the history of Paisley, culture and industry have walked hand in hand through the burgeoning textile and weaving trade of the 19th century and in patterns of Kashmiri origin, patronised by Queen Victoria, which subsequently catapulted the town’s name and produce into global demand and repute. That recognition and sense of identity stood in defiance of the Luftwaffe’s bombers in the blitz and economic malaise down the decades. However, it is important to recognise that those still took their toll. As we have heard from Ross Greer, Ferguslie Park was named as one of the most deprived areas of Scotland last year.

Those ingredients unquestionably qualify Paisley as UK city of culture, not just for the raw and natural creativity that it has exhibited through the ages, but for the resilience that it displays and the benefits that such a status could afford. We know the value that such recognition can bring to a community, with the promise of more than 4,000 jobs and a £172 million boost the local economy.

As a constituency member, it feels alien for me to wax lyrical about the virtues of communities outside Edinburgh Western, but today it has been an effortless task. I am struck by the warmth that exists in the chamber across all the parties for Paisley and Dundee. Such debates are welcome in the conduct of the Parliament’s affairs. They challenge us to think about the virtues of, and challenges that face, communities beyond our own and to embrace a national pride that often becomes a pawn in a wider discourse about the constitutional future of our nation. Therefore, I am very proud to support the Government motion and offer the full-throated support of the Liberal Democrat members to both cities in their bids.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-07862, in the name of Fiona Hyslop, on recognising and supporting Paisley’s 2021 United Kingdom city of c...
The Cabinet Secretary for Culture, Tourism and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before I call the next speaker, I remind members that if they want to speak in the debate, there is a wee thing that they have to do: press their request-to-...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I am delighted to be speaking in the debate, and I am grateful to Fiona Hyslop for giving Parliament the opportunity to signal our support for the Paisley 20...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is a pleasure to open the debate on behalf of the Labour Party and speak in support of Paisley’s bid for UK city of culture 2021 and Dundee’s bid for Euro...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I understand why Paisley got the biggest hit in your speech, but I am afraid that you have run out of time for Dundee. I will not hold it against you.
Neil Bibby Lab
I wish Dundee and Paisley every success in their bids over the coming months.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sure that you do. We now move to the open debate, and we will have speeches of six minutes. 15:42
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
Scotland is incredibly fortunate to have a rich cultural heritage—one that is known, respected and enjoyed across the world. To see that recognised through t...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I grew up in a small farming village outside St Andrews in the 1980s and 1990s, so Dundee was a metropolis to me. Lying 14 miles to the north, it always held...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much. George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) rose—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I have not called you yet, Mr Adam. I know that you are dead keen. I call George Adam. 15:53
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. My calves were not coping too well, but I was poised to stand up. I am, of course, extremely pleased to take part in the debate...
Maurice Corry (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Gosh, Maurice Corry—follow that. In the footsteps of George Adam, I say well done. I was extremely pleased that Dundee was to go ahead with the events that...
Graeme Dey (Angus South) (SNP) SNP
I will at least attempt to make as strong a case for the city of discovery as George Adam made for Paisley. First, I offer a degree of context for my suppor...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Paisley on making the shortlist for the UK city of culture. The fact that it has progressed this far is testament to the strength of the bid, ...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Today, we are debating the fine cultural achievements of Paisley and Dundee—and quite right, too. First, I want to reference another great city, Glasgow, the...
Fiona Hyslop SNP
I think that one set of figures looks at the legacy from a 10-year perspective, while the other takes a shorter-term view. Both sets of figures show the impo...
Joan McAlpine SNP
I thank the minister for that clarification and for confirming that there is no massaging of the figures going on. Whatever the figures are, it is well estab...
Bill Bowman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Fiona Hyslop for bringing the debate to the chamber. It gives us an opportunity to show our support for two remarkable areas of Scotland and our appr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
For a moment I thought you were offering to pay. I call Tom Arthur, the last speaker in the open debate. 16:29
Tom Arthur (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) SNP
As someone who was born in Paisley, was brought up in nearby Barrhead and is one of Renfrewshire’s three constituency MSPs, I am delighted to have the opport...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Who was counting the Sinatra quotes? Lewis Macdonald will wind up for Labour and has seven minutes, and Maurice Golden will have eight minutes for his speech...
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Often in this place, we have to agree to differ—after all, that is the essence of parliamentary debate. Taking issue is an essential part of a modern democra...
Maurice Golden (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Fiona Hyslop for her motion. My Scottish Conservative colleagues and I are grateful for the opportunity to show our party’s support for Paisley and D...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
Given Maurice Golden’s earlier comments about Mr Dey, does he actually remember the Average White Band?
Maurice Golden Con
When I was doing my standard grade music short course, that was the answer to one of the questions. I was taught about the Average White Band, but did not li...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Joe FitzPatrick) SNP
I thank business managers across the chamber for agreeing not only that we should schedule this business but that we should have a motion to which we could a...
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Constitution (Derek Mackay) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
Of course.