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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 21 June 2017

21 Jun 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Freedom of Information Requests
Stevenson, Stewart SNP Banffshire and Buchan Coast Watch on SPTV

I start by welcoming the Government’s announcement, which takes the public accessibility and availability of information relating to FOI requests—information that is in official hands—to new heights.

I want to talk about the Tories—the party that lodged today’s motion. They have not always been the most enthusiastic supporters of FOI. In the stage 1 debate on the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill on 17 January 2002, Lord James Douglas-Hamilton described the bill as

“a costly experiment to tinker with what he”—

the then Minister for Justice—

“calls a culture of secrecy.”

Lord James went on to say that

“The Executive seems to be intent on forcing through unnecessary measures.”

David McLetchie reinforced the Tory antipathy to the very concept of an FOI bill by saying:

“If the bill has been shoved down the list of priorities, the people of Scotland, aside from a few political anoraks, will not shed many tears.”

I see that Murdo Fraser is in the chamber. He said that the bill

“does us no credit whatever.”

My own contribution to the debate was to say that

“A desire to keep information is always an expression of someone’s self-interest”.—[Official Report, 17 January 2002; c 5467, 5469, 5480, 5494, 5499.]

I am strongly in favour of freedom of information, to the extent that when officials in the Labour and Liberal Executive prepared guidance to civil servants on how to implement the bill, I was delighted to discover, as the result of an FOI request, that they quoted from my speeches.

In government, and subsequently, I discovered that operation of the 2002 act places a genuine and proper burden on our public servants, whether they are employed or elected.

There have been many ministers in this Administration and in previous ones, and as one of them, I found myself responding to a significant number of FOI requests.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-06126, in the name of Edward Mountain, on freedom of information requests. 14:41
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am delighted to bring to the chamber this motion on freedom of information and at the outset I move the motion in my name. I started campaigning to becom...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Joe FitzPatrick) SNP
Would the member like to comment on the article entitled “FOI failings at the heart of government”, which was published on the BBC’s website earlier this wee...
Edward Mountain Con
I love taking such interventions, because they remind me of when I was about eight years old and I was in the playground. If I got criticised for doing somet...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Edward Mountain Con
I am short of time, so unless I am—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can give you half a minute extra.
Edward Mountain Con
Thank you.
Neil Findlay Lab
Does the member think that there is a correlation between garbage parliamentary answers and the spike in FOI requests?
Edward Mountain Con
Yes. It is clear that the Government is truly good at spin, but it is not good at listening and telling the whole story. That spin was evident yesterday whe...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Please move the motion, Mr Mountain.
Edward Mountain Con
I am sorry; I thought that I moved it at the beginning of my speech.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I do not think that you did, but members are nodding, so I shall check the Official Report. It is not a problem if you move the motion twice.
Edward Mountain Con
I would never disagree with the Presiding Officer. I move, That the Parliament condemns the Scottish Government’s poor performance in responding to freedom...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Joe FitzPatrick to speak to and move amendment S5M-06126.1. 14:50
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Joe FitzPatrick) SNP
I thank Mr Mountain for giving us the opportunity to discuss how we might improve openness and transparency. First I want to address our performance. Twelve...
Neil Findlay Lab
A week ago, the minister claimed that he wanted to highlight the Government’s achievements on transparency, saying that the Government operated to the highes...
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
If Mr Findlay had bothered to listen to anything that I said last week, he would have heard me making the point. We are clear that our performance is not wha...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I am grateful to the minister for giving way on the point about responding to the concerns expressed in the journalists’ letter earlier this month. One of th...
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
No. Requests are all prepared by Scottish Government officials. Special advisers have a role in assessing draft responses for accuracy. Laughter. As discus...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The minister is concluding.
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
The Freedom of Information (Amendment) Scotland Act 2013 improved the legislation by strengthening the ability to prosecute for an offence under the Freedom ...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak in today’s debate, following the motion that was raised for debate last week by Neil Findlay, who highlighted some of the ...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Today marks the third time in as many weeks that we are discussing the Scottish Government’s issue with transparency. We bring to the chamber today not just ...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
Did the member say “Westminster”?
Jamie Greene Con
Is that an intervention? I shall carry on. Interruption. Did I hear the words “UK Government” or “Westminster”? I am sure that that will be the excuse, as al...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I start by welcoming the Government’s announcement, which takes the public accessibility and availability of information relating to FOI requests—information...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Stewart Stevenson SNP
I will, if it is brief.
Johann Lamont Lab
It will be brief. Does the member accept that people are being driven to use FOI because of the very poor quality of written answers that we get in this Parl...