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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 21 June 2017

21 Jun 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Freedom of Information Requests
Rowley, Alex Lab Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I welcome the opportunity to speak in today’s debate, following the motion that was raised for debate last week by Neil Findlay, who highlighted some of the many concerns surrounding the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and the performance of this SNP Government. I reiterate the concern raised in Mr Findlay’s motion that the application of the act by ministers and officials is questionable at best and, at worst, implies a culture and practice of secrecy and cover-up, including through routinely avoiding sharing information, often by not recording or taking minutes of meetings that are attended by ministers or senior civil servants.

Speaking from experience, responses to freedom of information requests from the Scottish Government have been relatively poor—I am sure that many members across this chamber will agree. Labour supports the calls for an independent inquiry into the way that the Government deals with FOI requests, with the potential to undertake post-legislative scrutiny of the 2002 act.

In the interests of open government and, in particular, full transparency of government, I hope the Government can recognise today that it can do more when dealing with such requests under the act. The Government amendment in the name of Joe Fitzpatrick, which accepts the motion recognising that the Scottish Government has performed poorly in this area, is welcome, as is the Government’s commitment to publish all material released under FOI. However, I say to Mr Fitzpatrick that he is stretching the imagination to then claim that that is a boost to open government. He misses the point, and most fair-minded people will see through that for what it is.

There are many issues that must be addressed before we can seriously claim any boost to open government. As Neil Findlay pointed out in the chamber last week, just two weeks ago 23 prominent journalists signed an open letter to this Parliament in which they raised serious concerns about freedom of information requests and the way they are being mishandled by the SNP Government. When outlining the details of the complaints from the 23 journalists, Mr Findlay called for a proper investigation into the issues raised. That is why Labour will support the motion today.

As well as considering how FOI requests are dealt with, the inquiry must also examine the level of information that is available. How can it be that Government ministers meet with quango chiefs, business chiefs and lobbyists to discuss issues that have major implications for the people of Scotland, yet no record is kept of those meetings? That is not right, and this Parliament must make it clear that we expect openness and transparency in government.

It has also been suggested that Scottish Government officials and special advisers are delaying answers or simply rejecting questions. The whole point of the freedom of information legislation should surely be to allow more openness and further transparency. It is not up to Government ministers, officials or special advisers to decide whether to disclose something, based on whether doing so would be in the Government’s interests.

We also cannot ignore the fact that, at times, the responses to FOI requests seem more like they are dodging the questions than providing the answers. At its heart, freedom of information is about accountability, and this Government must recognise that, across this chamber and outwith this place, there is a cry for further accountability, openness and transparency.

By committing to an independent inquiry, the Government will show that it is committed to reviewing some of the damage it has done to the open and transparent image it says it is committed to.

Most importantly, there now needs to be a change in the culture of how FOI requests are dealt with. The Government and this Parliament can show that we want openness and transparency in all that we do by supporting the motion today and by supporting the SNP Government’s amendment, which acknowledges its weaknesses and commits itself to addressing them.

15:02  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-06126, in the name of Edward Mountain, on freedom of information requests. 14:41
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am delighted to bring to the chamber this motion on freedom of information and at the outset I move the motion in my name. I started campaigning to becom...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Joe FitzPatrick) SNP
Would the member like to comment on the article entitled “FOI failings at the heart of government”, which was published on the BBC’s website earlier this wee...
Edward Mountain Con
I love taking such interventions, because they remind me of when I was about eight years old and I was in the playground. If I got criticised for doing somet...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Edward Mountain Con
I am short of time, so unless I am—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can give you half a minute extra.
Edward Mountain Con
Thank you.
Neil Findlay Lab
Does the member think that there is a correlation between garbage parliamentary answers and the spike in FOI requests?
Edward Mountain Con
Yes. It is clear that the Government is truly good at spin, but it is not good at listening and telling the whole story. That spin was evident yesterday whe...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Please move the motion, Mr Mountain.
Edward Mountain Con
I am sorry; I thought that I moved it at the beginning of my speech.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I do not think that you did, but members are nodding, so I shall check the Official Report. It is not a problem if you move the motion twice.
Edward Mountain Con
I would never disagree with the Presiding Officer. I move, That the Parliament condemns the Scottish Government’s poor performance in responding to freedom...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Joe FitzPatrick to speak to and move amendment S5M-06126.1. 14:50
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Joe FitzPatrick) SNP
I thank Mr Mountain for giving us the opportunity to discuss how we might improve openness and transparency. First I want to address our performance. Twelve...
Neil Findlay Lab
A week ago, the minister claimed that he wanted to highlight the Government’s achievements on transparency, saying that the Government operated to the highes...
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
If Mr Findlay had bothered to listen to anything that I said last week, he would have heard me making the point. We are clear that our performance is not wha...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I am grateful to the minister for giving way on the point about responding to the concerns expressed in the journalists’ letter earlier this month. One of th...
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
No. Requests are all prepared by Scottish Government officials. Special advisers have a role in assessing draft responses for accuracy. Laughter. As discus...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The minister is concluding.
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
The Freedom of Information (Amendment) Scotland Act 2013 improved the legislation by strengthening the ability to prosecute for an offence under the Freedom ...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak in today’s debate, following the motion that was raised for debate last week by Neil Findlay, who highlighted some of the ...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Today marks the third time in as many weeks that we are discussing the Scottish Government’s issue with transparency. We bring to the chamber today not just ...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
Did the member say “Westminster”?
Jamie Greene Con
Is that an intervention? I shall carry on. Interruption. Did I hear the words “UK Government” or “Westminster”? I am sure that that will be the excuse, as al...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I start by welcoming the Government’s announcement, which takes the public accessibility and availability of information relating to FOI requests—information...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Stewart Stevenson SNP
I will, if it is brief.
Johann Lamont Lab
It will be brief. Does the member accept that people are being driven to use FOI because of the very poor quality of written answers that we get in this Parl...