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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 29 March 2017

29 Mar 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Education
Greer, Ross Green West Scotland Watch on SPTV

Our education agencies play a vital role in ensuring that pupils get a strong education. Their performance has a real impact. As members are aware, the Education and Skills Committee has recently been scrutinising quite substantially the performance of the SQA and Education Scotland. We have listened to teachers, parents, other experts and the agencies themselves. Only this morning, we discussed the response of the agencies to our report and, quite rightly, it has been a pretty dismal experience. It is clear that improvement urgently needs to be made and that neither Education Scotland nor the SQA is willing fully to acknowledge the problems.

What we heard from teachers were significant concerns about the way in which those agencies function. It is clear that they do not feel that they can raise their concerns openly with either agency. Trust in the SQA, in particular, has completely broken down. Based on the evidence received by the committee, it is disappointing that the Government’s education governance review has not focused more closely on the role that the education agencies play—although I heard the cabinet secretary’s comments in that regard earlier.

From the evidence that we gathered, we felt that there was a serious cause for concern about the SQA: there has been a breakdown in trust with teachers, there have been errors in exam papers and the approach to feedback was akin to a defensive corporate public relations exercise. In fact, I believe that, from a freedom of information request made by Iain Gray, we found that defensive corporate PR was exactly what was going on.

We have heard of a geography exam being described by teachers as the “worst ever”, a computer science exam that contained errors from back to front—which I had to pursue through this Parliament—and a maths exam said by students to be “impossible”. Teachers have reported excessively high workloads created by huge amounts of complex and inconsistent documentation over which neither Education Scotland nor the SQA has kept sufficient control. One physics teacher cited 81 pages of guidance, spread across five different documents, available through different parts of the glow website. Guidance has been updated several times already, for courses that have been running for only a few years. We cannot say that that is an acceptable situation for our teachers.

The SQA’s response to the committee’s report has been far from adequate. I described it this morning as defensive, filled with platitudes and simply restating its structures and processes—as other members have already mentioned—but not addressing the concerns that our committee raised. It has committed itself to further engagement with teachers and to reviewing some of its working practices, but has not yet substantively addressed the causes of many of the problems. Far more needs to be done to repair the trust between the SQA and teachers.

As Tavish Scott’s motion highlights, concerns have also been raised repeatedly about the dual role of Education Scotland in both developing CFE and inspecting its implementation in schools. A majority of the teachers who responded to the committee told us that they felt that inspections added either little or nothing to their school’s performance—that inspections do not grasp the realities of the school, as measures are taken simply to improve appearances for inspections. That is like the story about the Queen believing that everywhere smells of fresh paint.

That stands in pretty stark contrast to Education Scotland’s own review, which stated that headteachers overwhelmingly value inspections—which was the point that I made in my intervention to Gillian Martin’s speech. It appears that the further from the classroom you are, the more you value the inspections. That is not good enough.

It is concerning that Education Scotland’s primary response to those concerns was to launch a media campaign, in its words

“to correct any misconceptions about inspections”.

We need to ensure that school inspections have the confidence of all teachers in the classroom—not just headteachers. I believe that there is a strong case to split the functions of Education Scotland and that that should be further explored, for the reasons that Tavish Scott outlined.

I have no interest in last-minute theatrics in this debate. The Greens will support the Government’s amendment because we believe that Tavish Scott’s proposal should be explored further, but that we should not yet make an absolute commitment to it. We will hold the Government to its commitment to consider the proposal seriously, because solving the real education issues in Scotland cannot be kicked into the long grass. We will not allow the Government to do that.

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The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (John Swinney) SNP
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Johann Lamont (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
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Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Like Liz Smith, I have carefully studied Mr Swinney’s speech last week, in which he declared that “the status quo is not an option” in our schools. I agre...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
We move to the open debate. We are extremely tight for time, so there is no leeway at all on the time limit of four minutes. 15:07
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Last night, when I discussed the topic of the motion with my wife, who is a primary school teacher of 15 years’ experience, she gave me an insight into the m...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
I hear teachers say, “Leave us alone—let the curriculum bed in,” all the time. Does the member not agree that changing the governance structures of the educa...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must come to a close, please.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I will, Presiding Officer. This is symptomatic of the Government’s approach of measurement, meddling and micromanagement, and I am therefore quite happy to s...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
In my contribution, I will concentrate on the first part of the Liberal Democrat motion, which refers to inspections. As a member of the Education and Skill...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
From the evidence that the committee has gathered, there seems to be a disconnect between the value that headteachers place on inspections and the value that...
Gillian Martin SNP
I have heard that kind of stuff, too, and I think that it is a cultural thing. The previous inspections regime was so onerous—and I will say more about this ...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Education should serve two functions: it should enrich the minds of students and prepare them for the modern workforce. My colleague Liz Smith said that rece...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to take part in the debate—albeit briefly—and I thank the Liberal Democrats for bringing the issue to the chamber. I hope that the...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must close, please.
Johann Lamont Lab
That is not good enough. We know that people are trying to do their best. I believe that the proposed change in the role of Education Scotland would play a p...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
Our education agencies play a vital role in ensuring that pupils get a strong education. Their performance has a real impact. As members are aware, the Educa...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The last contribution in the open debate is from Fulton MacGregor. 15:28
Fulton MacGregor (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) SNP
First, I would like to apologise for my hoarse voice. I have had the flu that has been going around—or, as I have been told by my partner several times this ...
Johann Lamont Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Fulton MacGregor SNP
No—there is not a lot of time. My constituency contains some of the most deprived areas in Scotland, according to the Scottish index of multiple deprivation...
Johann Lamont Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Fulton MacGregor SNP
I do not have time. Education Scotland already runs independently of Government, but I would support a review of the processes that are in place—as Ross Gre...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The member must close.