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Meeting of the Parliament 26 April 2017

26 Apr 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Carers and Social Care

The cabinet secretary knows that that is a matter of choice. The SNP Government—her Government—has taken the choice year on year to cut councils’ budgets. That is a choice—the SNP Government has chosen to penalise councils across the country.

I turn to carers. There is a financial impact on people if they become a carer. One third of carers are struggling to pay utility bills, 47 per cent have been in debt and half are struggling to make ends meet. They cut back on essentials such as food and heating. The main carers benefit is worth just £62.10 for a minimum of 35 hours a week, yet carers’ value to us all is huge. In 2015, a Carers UK report estimated that the value of carers’ contributions in Scotland was £10.8 billion.

In the Scottish Conservative 2016 manifesto we called for carers allowance to be aligned with jobseekers allowance, benefiting 60,000 more people. Carers Scotland agrees with that, and I thank it for its useful briefing ahead of the debate.

Many carers find that their career and promotion opportunities are affected, and that they have to reduce their hours or give up work altogether. Carers who have given up work to care also find it difficult to return to the workplace. Almost a third have been out of the workplace for 10 years or more. A quarter of the carers not currently in work say they would like to return to work, and almost two thirds would like to return when their caring role has ended.

Carers care, and we should care for them. They deserve a break now and then. Providing short break opportunities for carers and those they care for is vital, but the availability and choice of short breaks for carers across Scotland vary considerably. There is growing evidence of significant cuts to existing levels of service provision.

I close by quoting from a briefing sent in by Marie Curie that sums it up:

“Caring for those with long-term illness and coming to the end of life can be all-encompassing. Carers face increasing demands and challenges on their time as the condition of the person they care for deteriorates. Many carers of people with a terminal illness do not see themselves as carers but simply as people looking after loved ones.”

Carers deserve our full support.

15:31  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-05312, in the name of Alison Johnstone, on carers and social care. 14:43
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
I am proud to lead a debate that calls for greater recognition and support for all those who provide care, whether by working in our overstretched social car...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport (Shona Robison) SNP
I am pleased to take part in a debate that raises these important issues. The Scottish Government’s vision of a healthier, fairer and wealthier Scotland plac...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary confirm whether housekeeping staff will also be paid the living wage?
Shona Robison SNP
The focus has been on workers who deliver social care. It has been a very unusual step to have a Government putting public money into what are, in essence, p...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I am pleased to speak in the debate today and to show my gratitude to the hundreds of thousands of social work staff members and unpaid carers who work tirel...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
The member recognises the importance of social care work, as well as the challenges of recruitment and retention. Why, then, does the Tory amendment delete a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
I should say that there is time in hand for all members who want to make interventions in the debate. We can be quite generous.
Annie Wells Con
I think that we all agree that the living wage is a good thing, but there are problems with its implementation. Providers are struggling to cover the increas...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Colin Smyth. Mr Smyth, I can give you a generous six minutes—which means that you will get more than six minutes. 15:09
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Thank you very much indeed, Presiding Officer. I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I am a local councillor, and I was previou...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to the open debate. As I have said, we have time in hand. 15:16
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
There can hardly be a job that is more important than providing care for the most vulnerable members of society. The home carers workforce is among the most ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You should not antagonise me so early in your speech: I can be vindictive.
James Dornan SNP
I am kind of hoping that you will cut my time. The post sums up the feeling that has been outlined in the debate. It was by a carer—Jessica Gentry—in Englan...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I remind the member to use the member’s name rather than “you”, for the Official Report.
James Dornan SNP
Sorry. I was addressing that to Annie Wells, Conservative MSP for the Glasgow region.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That is just a wee bit cheeky—
James Dornan SNP
While we are discussing—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No—sit down, Mr Dornan. You are verging on being a wee bit cheeky, and it is not going down well with me.
James Dornan SNP
Sorry, Presiding Officer. You asked me to identify her. While we are discussing care, it would be wrong of me not to mention home carers who are not employe...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank the Greens for bringing the issue to Parliament, because it is important that we discuss social care and carers. It is an issue that affects people d...
The Minister for Public Health and Sport (Aileen Campbell) SNP
The member is articulating a case that services require more investment. This Government has given local government a fair settlement. What is the member’s v...
Graham Simpson Con
The impact on councils comes from the money that this Government gives them, which has been cut year on year—that affects carers. The number of adults in n...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Graham Simpson Con
Not just now. There are huge challenges. Audit Scotland said: “Social work departments are facing significant challenges because of a combination of finan...
Shona Robison SNP
The member has said on three occasions that he thinks that local government should get more money. Will he say how much more money and where that money has t...
Graham Simpson Con
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Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
A person who was far better and wiser than I am said: “The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members.” In today...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I declare an interest in that I am a councillor. This is probably the final time that I will declare that interest. I also declare my financial contribution ...