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Meeting of the Parliament 26 April 2017

26 Apr 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Carers and Social Care
Dornan, James SNP Glasgow Cathcart Watch on SPTV

Sorry, Presiding Officer. You asked me to identify her.

While we are discussing care, it would be wrong of me not to mention home carers who are not employed by a governing body but who do it because they are a family member, friend or partner. Many people are unable to seek employment because they are committed to the care of a loved one. That is not only a vocation but a role that takes considerable strain off local authorities and organisations. Young carers in my constituency are among the most remarkable young people I have ever had the privilege of meeting. They often do a job that is beyond their years while trying to study and plan for their future. That is why I am thrilled that the Scottish Government is looking at a young carers allowance, which is another way of ensuring that the cared for and the carer are supported in equal measure.

When I was first elected as a councillor in 2007, my first official duty was to attend an event for young carers at Glasgow south-east carers centre. Before then, I just never had a clue. Honestly, I was completely blown away by what those young people had to do, the responsibilities that were placed on them and the way that they stood up to the challenges and took them on their shoulders while at the same time looking to better their lives. I am therefore really pleased that the Scottish Government is doing all that it can to ensure that those young people benefit and can go on to complete their education and, we hope, do whatever they want to do with their lives.

As has been mentioned, the Government has committed to taking carers allowance up to the level of jobseekers allowance, which will mean that carers will receive an extra £600 a year, which is an 18 per cent rise. The Tory cuts to disability benefits have had a catastrophic effect on many of those in Scotland who should be most looked after and protected by the system. In order for the Scottish Government to do that properly, it has to continue with appropriate consultation. I look forward to seeing legislation on the measure being passed following the proper parliamentary procedure.

I have to take Colin Smyth up on his point about that. The Opposition knows fine well that the Scottish Government has to do that in consultation with the Department for Work and Pensions. The Opposition knows that the Government is already in that process and that, until there is agreement with the DWP for that to be rolled out, it is very difficult to do it. The Opposition cannot ask for a date when we are in the process of trying to get the procedures in place.

Earlier this year, I saw a dig at the Scottish Government in the Evening Times by one of Mr Smyth’s colleagues, who seemed keen to criticise the Government, which is committed to getting it right when it comes to the new powers. However, I agree with Mr Sarwar when he said:

“Carers are the unsung heroes of our country. Thousands of people dedicate their lives to caring for others and save the government, particularly our NHS and social care system, billions of pounds because of their selfless care and attention.”

I should probably challenge Mr Sarwar on that. If he feels so strongly about carers, what about the carers who are paid by Glasgow City Council and who are being treated with what seems to me like complete and utter contempt in their fight for equal pay? When we stand up for carers, we must stand up for all of them, because no one role is worth more than another. That applies to those in private sector and third sector organisations, kinship carers and many more who are ensuring not only that the most vulnerable in our community are looked but that they continue to play a worthy and functioning part in that fairer Scotland that we all seek.

15:24  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-05312, in the name of Alison Johnstone, on carers and social care. 14:43
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
I am proud to lead a debate that calls for greater recognition and support for all those who provide care, whether by working in our overstretched social car...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport (Shona Robison) SNP
I am pleased to take part in a debate that raises these important issues. The Scottish Government’s vision of a healthier, fairer and wealthier Scotland plac...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary confirm whether housekeeping staff will also be paid the living wage?
Shona Robison SNP
The focus has been on workers who deliver social care. It has been a very unusual step to have a Government putting public money into what are, in essence, p...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I am pleased to speak in the debate today and to show my gratitude to the hundreds of thousands of social work staff members and unpaid carers who work tirel...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
The member recognises the importance of social care work, as well as the challenges of recruitment and retention. Why, then, does the Tory amendment delete a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
I should say that there is time in hand for all members who want to make interventions in the debate. We can be quite generous.
Annie Wells Con
I think that we all agree that the living wage is a good thing, but there are problems with its implementation. Providers are struggling to cover the increas...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Colin Smyth. Mr Smyth, I can give you a generous six minutes—which means that you will get more than six minutes. 15:09
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Thank you very much indeed, Presiding Officer. I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I am a local councillor, and I was previou...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to the open debate. As I have said, we have time in hand. 15:16
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
There can hardly be a job that is more important than providing care for the most vulnerable members of society. The home carers workforce is among the most ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You should not antagonise me so early in your speech: I can be vindictive.
James Dornan SNP
I am kind of hoping that you will cut my time. The post sums up the feeling that has been outlined in the debate. It was by a carer—Jessica Gentry—in Englan...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I remind the member to use the member’s name rather than “you”, for the Official Report.
James Dornan SNP
Sorry. I was addressing that to Annie Wells, Conservative MSP for the Glasgow region.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That is just a wee bit cheeky—
James Dornan SNP
While we are discussing—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No—sit down, Mr Dornan. You are verging on being a wee bit cheeky, and it is not going down well with me.
James Dornan SNP
Sorry, Presiding Officer. You asked me to identify her. While we are discussing care, it would be wrong of me not to mention home carers who are not employe...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank the Greens for bringing the issue to Parliament, because it is important that we discuss social care and carers. It is an issue that affects people d...
The Minister for Public Health and Sport (Aileen Campbell) SNP
The member is articulating a case that services require more investment. This Government has given local government a fair settlement. What is the member’s v...
Graham Simpson Con
The impact on councils comes from the money that this Government gives them, which has been cut year on year—that affects carers. The number of adults in n...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Graham Simpson Con
Not just now. There are huge challenges. Audit Scotland said: “Social work departments are facing significant challenges because of a combination of finan...
Shona Robison SNP
The member has said on three occasions that he thinks that local government should get more money. Will he say how much more money and where that money has t...
Graham Simpson Con
The cabinet secretary knows that that is a matter of choice. The SNP Government—her Government—has taken the choice year on year to cut councils’ budgets. Th...
Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
A person who was far better and wiser than I am said: “The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members.” In today...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I declare an interest in that I am a councillor. This is probably the final time that I will declare that interest. I also declare my financial contribution ...