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Meeting of the Parliament 25 April 2017

25 Apr 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Child Tax Credit Cuts
Davidson, Ruth Con Edinburgh Central Watch on SPTV

First, let me say that I welcome this debate today, not because it is about an issue that is easy to discuss in public—something so appalling never is—but because it is only right that issues of difficulty and passion like this are debated in our Parliament here in Edinburgh.

I would like to begin on a note of consensus. As politicians, I suspect that we all know survivors of rape. Indeed, I know that there are even those among us here who have been subject to sexual violence ourselves and who find the issue and even the word difficult to articulate. In the past two weeks, as this debate has emerged into the public domain, I know that many of us—me included—have spoken to women who are recovering from their ordeal. We know the awful circumstances that they face: not just the terror of the attack or attacks but the indignity of the criminal justice system that faces them if they report the crime, the prospect of a protracted court case to follow, the criminal injuries compensation process and the lengthy spell afterwards when women who have been attacked—and, in some cases, men, too—have to try to pick up the broken pieces of their lives and confront the world anew.

In the past few weeks, when we have talked about how we should help women in such circumstances, we have used words such as “sensitive” and “compassionate”. I agree that those words do not even begin to cut it; they shrivel next to the enormity of the violation that the women have suffered. That is even more the case when we face women whose rape has resulted in the birth of a child. Perhaps we do not have the words for it at all; certainly, I struggle to find them.

I would like to use my speech here today to try to place this issue in context. The issue of the so-called rape clause arose as a result of the Welfare Reform and Work Bill, which was passed in the House of Commons in 2015. The proposed changes to welfare spending were introduced in the wake of the 2015 general election, when my party set out in its manifesto a clear plan to try to put the UK’s public finances back on solid ground.

We all know that the UK continues to spend more than it can afford, borrowing to the tune of £69 billion last year. It is the view of members on these benches that, in order to restore public finances, we must eliminate that deficit and then reduce the debt mountain that we as a country have allowed to build up over a period of years. Otherwise, future generations will have to pay our debts.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-05282, in the name of Nicola Sturgeon, on child tax credit cuts. I call the First Minister to speak to an...
The First Minister (Nicola Sturgeon) SNP
Last Thursday, together with Kezia Dugdale, Willie Rennie, Patrick Harvie and many MSPs from across the chamber, I attended the demonstration against the rap...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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The First Minister SNP
No, I am not surprised to hear that, because I know that. While I oppose many of the benefit cuts, I think that this one—particularly the rape clause that fl...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call on Ruth Davidson to speak to and move the amendment in her name. 14:32
Ruth Davidson (Edinburgh Central) (Con) Con
First, let me say that I welcome this debate today, not because it is about an issue that is easy to discuss in public—something so appalling never is—but be...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the member give way?
Ruth Davidson Con
I am sorry, but I have a lot to get through and I will not be taking any interventions. Members: Oh!
Ruth Davidson Con
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Kezia Dugdale Lab
Will the member give way on that point?
Ruth Davidson Con
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Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Ruth Davidson Con
In other words, parents of three or more children who are currently claiming tax credits will still continue to do so.
Neil Findlay Lab
Will you not defend your own policy?
Ruth Davidson Con
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The Minister for Childcare and Early Years (Mark McDonald) SNP
Will the member give way?
Ruth Davidson Con
I agreed with her then, and I still do. The First Minister gave monetary examples, so let me put them in context. A one-parent family with two children wher...
Neil Findlay Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer.
Ruth Davidson Con
It adds that “women are not placed in the position of having to give details about the rape to DWP or HMRC officials”.
The Presiding Officer NPA
I am sorry, Ms Davidson, but there is a point of order from Mr Findlay.
Neil Findlay Lab
Presiding Officer, I was under the impression that this was a debating chamber. Is it not appalling that the leader of the Opposition in the Parliament is un...
The Presiding Officer NPA
That is not a point of order. All members know that it is entirely at their own discretion whether to take an intervention or not.
Ruth Davidson Con
There is absolutely no requirement to report rape as a crime, to provide proof of rape or to provide proof of conviction. A woman writes her name and a third...
The First Minister SNP
Will Ruth Davidson take an intervention?
Ruth Davidson Con
That third-party model already exists in the benefit system to support victims of domestic violence. Members: Give way—go on.
Ruth Davidson Con
The third-party professionals— Members: Give way!
The Presiding Officer NPA
Order. The member is not taking an intervention.
Ruth Davidson Con
It is important that we do not wilfully misrepresent the process, causing fear and alarm. Let me outline the process to members again. The woman writes her n...
The Presiding Officer NPA
There is another point of order.