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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 29 March 2017

29 Mar 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Education

Like Liz Smith, I have carefully studied Mr Swinney’s speech last week, in which he declared that

“the status quo is not an option”

in our schools. I agree. The status quo in our schools is too few teachers, too few support staff and class sizes that are far too big, and that cannot go on. The status quo in our school system is also two Government bodies—Education Scotland and the SQA—that are, at best, failing to deliver and, at worst, dysfunctional.

The cabinet secretary said that his governance review included Education Scotland and the SQA in its scope. That is absolutely true, although Tavish Scott is right that it is quite hard to find them in there. Let us look at what some of the respondents to the governance review had to say about them. The Educational Institute of Scotland said this about Education Scotland:

“The EIS has concerns ... over the increasingly politicised role of Education Scotland ... With the role of the Inspectorate having been brought closer to Government, questions remain about the independence of the inspection process and its relationship to government policy, and concerns have emerged more recently regarding the capacity of Education Scotland to provide sound, evidence-based advice to inform government policy.”

That is pretty damning. It is reflected too in the submission from the Royal Society of Edinburgh, which says,

“There is concern that Education Scotland’s role has become increasingly politicised, with the implication that it prioritises the needs of Government over those of schools and teachers”,

and,

“where Education Scotland carries out the development work and has responsibility for evaluating those developments ... Its independence as an evaluator needs to be questioned”.

That too is fairly damning but, as Tavish Scott pointed out, we can look to what Education Scotland itself says in its role as the schools inspectorate. In Bill Maxwell’s valedictory report this week, he points out that school provision for pupils is very variable, that 23 per cent of secondaries and 26 per cent of primaries have “important weaknesses”, or strengths that only just outweigh weaknesses. That is hardly a glowing report. As Mr Scott pointed out, it is a report on Bill Maxwell himself, because, as chief inspector, he reports on Education Scotland, of which he is, of course, the chief executive. I fear that he rather damns himself by his own faint praise. We must ask ourselves on what he bases his assessment, because at the weekend we also discovered that, last year, only one in 18 schools was inspected. One element of Education Scotland’s responsibility seems to be disappearing.

As for the SQA, the Education and Skills Committee has received strong evidence from teachers that they no longer trust our exam body. In one submission, the committee was told:

“I am afraid that my current experience of the SQA is almost entirely negative ... Documentation is highly complex, repetitive and difficult to access”.

There have been failures by the SQA in maths, geography and computer studies exams, to name but a few. The cabinet secretary spoke of the decluttering of assessments but, at the moment, the SQA is making rather a hash of the change that has come about because of his decision to remove the unit assessments from national 4 and national 5. Let us not forget, either, the SQA’s decision to push the cost of appeals on to schools and local authorities, which has led to a massive drop in the number of pupils who can benefit from appeals or re-marks. That is affecting pupils in the state sector disproportionately and unfairly.

It seems clear that reform is needed. With Education Scotland, the reform that is needed is obvious: it is the splitting of functions. With the SQA, the required reform is perhaps less clear, but the organisation has certainly suffered a loss of experienced staff, and there are questions to be answered about the balance of its income-generating work and the work that it does for the Scottish exam system. We need a review of the SQA, and we need the certainty of knowing that reform will take place.

Although I acknowledge that the Government’s amendment takes seriously the issues that the Liberal Democrats have raised, it is not enough to say that reform will be given “serious consideration”. The Parliament must commit itself to actual reform—Education Scotland must be split and things must be changed at the SQA to make it work—and that is why we will support the Liberal Democrat motion this evening.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-04920, in the name of Tavish Scott, on education. I call Tavish Scott to speak to and move the motion. 1...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
On Monday, I witnessed Whiteness primary school’s senior pupils performing “Henry VIII”. The play has a lot to say about politics at the moment, but I partic...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (John Swinney) SNP
I am grateful to Mr Scott for giving way. As he goes through the information about benchmarks, would he acknowledge that the number of pages that he has cite...
Tavish Scott LD
Yes. There is much in that argument, although I suspect that it would be inordinately helpful to teachers the length and breadth of the country if the Deputy...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (John Swinney) SNP
The debate must be set in the context of our determination to improve performance in Scottish education. We have a good education system, with hard-working a...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Does the Deputy First Minister recognise the work of the Institute for Public Policy Research, which has discussed positive destinations and said that we sho...
John Swinney SNP
The positive destinations analysis has been a reasonably long-term assessment of trends that has spanned many years. In the labour market strategy, we are co...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
John Swinney made it abundantly clear last week, in responding to a poor inspection report on Argyll and Bute Council, that when it comes to improving standa...
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Like Liz Smith, I have carefully studied Mr Swinney’s speech last week, in which he declared that “the status quo is not an option” in our schools. I agre...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
We move to the open debate. We are extremely tight for time, so there is no leeway at all on the time limit of four minutes. 15:07
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Last night, when I discussed the topic of the motion with my wife, who is a primary school teacher of 15 years’ experience, she gave me an insight into the m...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
I hear teachers say, “Leave us alone—let the curriculum bed in,” all the time. Does the member not agree that changing the governance structures of the educa...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Not when that is exactly the intervention that our teachers are asking for. The most recent example of the Government’s tendency has been the advent of nati...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must come to a close, please.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I will, Presiding Officer. This is symptomatic of the Government’s approach of measurement, meddling and micromanagement, and I am therefore quite happy to s...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
In my contribution, I will concentrate on the first part of the Liberal Democrat motion, which refers to inspections. As a member of the Education and Skill...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
From the evidence that the committee has gathered, there seems to be a disconnect between the value that headteachers place on inspections and the value that...
Gillian Martin SNP
I have heard that kind of stuff, too, and I think that it is a cultural thing. The previous inspections regime was so onerous—and I will say more about this ...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Education should serve two functions: it should enrich the minds of students and prepare them for the modern workforce. My colleague Liz Smith said that rece...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to take part in the debate—albeit briefly—and I thank the Liberal Democrats for bringing the issue to the chamber. I hope that the...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must close, please.
Johann Lamont Lab
That is not good enough. We know that people are trying to do their best. I believe that the proposed change in the role of Education Scotland would play a p...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
Our education agencies play a vital role in ensuring that pupils get a strong education. Their performance has a real impact. As members are aware, the Educa...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The last contribution in the open debate is from Fulton MacGregor. 15:28
Fulton MacGregor (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) SNP
First, I would like to apologise for my hoarse voice. I have had the flu that has been going around—or, as I have been told by my partner several times this ...
Johann Lamont Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Fulton MacGregor SNP
No—there is not a lot of time. My constituency contains some of the most deprived areas in Scotland, according to the Scottish index of multiple deprivation...
Johann Lamont Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Fulton MacGregor SNP
I do not have time. Education Scotland already runs independently of Government, but I would support a review of the processes that are in place—as Ross Gre...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The member must close.