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Meeting of the Parliament 07 February 2017

07 Feb 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Withdrawal from the European Union (Article 50)
Greer, Ross Green West Scotland Watch on SPTV

As our Conservative colleagues are always keen to remind us, we have debated a number of aspects of Brexit in the Parliament in recent months. Just a few weeks ago, members from across the chamber again urged the UK Government to end the uncertainty for citizens of the other 27 EU nations who live in the UK and not to use them as bargaining chips. It was therefore with some disappointment, but no surprise whatsoever, that I saw in today’s newspapers that the Prime Minister, while offering positive rhetoric about the contribution that our neighbours from elsewhere in Europe have made, has again refused to guarantee their future here.

I absolutely accept that the Governments of the other 27 countries should also be offering reassurance to UK citizens in their nations and taking them off the negotiating table. However, none of that should stop the UK Government taking EU citizens who are here off the negotiating table today—that is entirely the UK Government’s choice. Our Green colleagues across the continent have been making the case that citizens should not be part of the negotiations, and we will continue to do so.

In our debates in recent months, we have urged the UK Government to keep Scotland in the European single market and we have highlighted the damage that leaving would inflict on our wages and jobs and on the wellbeing of the Scottish economy. We urged Theresa May to respect the democratic verdict of voters in Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar and agree to a compromise that recognises that we voted to stay.

It should not be forgotten that there has been significant compromise on our part. Scotland did not vote just to stay in the single market; we voted convincingly to stay in the European Union, as the Green amendment states. The proposals that the Scottish Government set out are an exercise in compromise and damage limitation. They are an attempt at good will towards and co-operation with colleagues at Westminster but, to be frank, there is little to show for them beyond empty rhetoric from the other side.

I have much sympathy for Mike Russell and the team who were behind the “Scotland’s Place in Europe” paper. However, despite the statements and despite a committee session with the minister last week, I have no idea what intensifying the joint work means in relation to the proposals, because I have seen nothing from the UK Government to explain that.

Given that the Prime Minister did not even wait for the proposals from the Welsh Government and Plaid Cymru before outlining her Brexit proposals, I do not have much faith that she is taking any of the compromise proposals seriously. That is reason alone for the Greens not to support the activation of article 50, but it is not the only reason.

In a number of debates, the Parliament has highlighted significant concerns, but we are no closer to a satisfactory answer on issues that have been raised repeatedly over recent months. The bill that has been introduced in the UK Parliament is wildly inadequate. It contains barely two provisions, one of which simply specifies the name of the bill. As has been mentioned, the rights of EU migrants are still not assured. Amendments in the Commons to that end are, shamefully, set to be voted down by the Government and its back benchers if they are selected, although there is still the chance for a change of heart by any Conservative MPs who are watching, because the vote has not come up yet. The course that is being set at Westminster could not be further from the collective—though not unanimous—position of this Parliament that Scotland should remain in the single market, either with the UK as a whole remaining or through a differentiated agreement.

It is evident that Theresa May’s Government does not have a clear plan. What she has laid out so far is confused, contradictory and dangerous. The white paper would be laughable if it were not so serious. For all the criticism that the Greens laid out in 2014, “Scotland’s Future: Your Guide to an Independent Scotland” was substantial enough for effective scrutiny and was scrutinised ahead of the vote. The UK Government’s Brexit white paper was not even released until after the first reading of the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill in the House of Commons. Nothing approaching a coherent position was laid out ahead of the referendum.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-03858, in the name of Michael Russell, on article 50. 14:23
The Minister for UK Negotiations on Scotland’s Place in Europe (Michael Russell) SNP
As the First Minister has indicated, this debate on article 50 will culminate in “one of the most significant votes in the history of the Scottish Parliamen...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
Only a narrow majority across the UK as a whole voted to leave. Is it not clear that, given that many leave campaigners were explicitly saying that the UK wo...
Michael Russell SNP
The member is absolutely right. Indeed, the leave campaign was disingenuous on many points, including on the repatriation of powers. I will come to that. On...
John Lamont (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
I am happy to speak in today’s debate on the triggering of article 50 and to move the amendment in my name. But, Presiding Officer, I am somewhat surprised t...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Was the Scottish Government wrong to publish its compromise views? Can Mr Lamont, for all the meetings that there have been, tell us of a single, however tri...
John Lamont Con
I might have read a different document to that read by Mr Stevenson but I can see no compromise in the SNP’s position. The SNP is obsessed with stoking up th...
Michael Russell SNP
It is very important to nail that misapprehension immediately. It is absolutely clear that the proposals in “Scotland’s Place in Europe” do not require Scotl...
John Lamont Con
Mr Russell clearly does not understand how the internal market works, because any member of the internal market has to accept the free movement of workers. H...
Michael Russell SNP
Will the member give way?
John Lamont Con
No. I have heard enough from Mr Russell. That is why I hope that all parties who believe in the UK will support the amendment in my name, which urges the Sc...
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
When Theresa May invokes article 50 and gives notice of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union, we will have reached a sombre moment in our shared his...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I thank Lewis Macdonald for giving way. Can he tell us how his party at Westminster is getting on with challenging that?
Lewis Macdonald Lab
I will certainly discuss Westminster in a moment. I am sure that Mr Rennie will want to reflect on how effective his colleagues there are being as well. Aft...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (John Swinney) SNP
I want to follow up on the point that Mr Macdonald has just made. If he can see the advantages and benefits of the United Kingdom Government coming to some f...
Lewis Macdonald Lab
Those on the Conservative benches have to speak for themselves, and no doubt we will hear more from them shortly. Clearly, however, there is a need for peopl...
Michael Russell SNP
For the avoidance of doubt, I will repeat what I said in my speech. We continue to negotiate constructively and positively—or to attempt to do so—on the basi...
Lewis Macdonald Lab
I recognise what Mr Russell says, but the truth is that Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP Government are keeping the threat of an independence referendum on the ta...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
As our Conservative colleagues are always keen to remind us, we have debated a number of aspects of Brexit in the Parliament in recent months. Just a few wee...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
The UK Parliament’s definition of a white paper is that it is a policy document that is produced before legislation. Is the document a white paper at all?
Ross Greer Green
Mr Stevenson is right. What the UK Government has published is nothing approaching the definition of a white paper. It certainly has nothing approaching the ...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Are people away with the fairies when they think that an independent Scotland could be set up in a similar timescale?
Ross Greer Green
As I am sure Mr Findlay is aware, the Greens were openly sceptical about the timescale that the Scottish Government set out in 2014. We believe in independen...
Neil Findlay Lab
If the inaccuracy was on the part of his friends in the SNP on the timescale that it would take to set up an independent Scotland, what do the magnificent Gr...
Ross Greer Green
Unfortunately, we did not have the resources of a Government behind us, and we estimated that the time would be a couple of years. We did not put a hard time...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
Come to a close, please.
Ross Greer Green
—and we will likely have to choose one future or another. I move amendment S5M-03858.2, to insert at end: “; notes the widespread scepticism that an agreem...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That ending was a happy coincidence, Mr Greer. 15:06
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
Today’s debate is marked by omission, irony and confusion. Interruption. The SNP motion is significant in what it does not say. In fact, the minister was ver...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I am sensing that Willie Rennie is about to explain how his party can provide us with clarity. Before he does that, can he tell us how many different ways hi...