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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 18 January 2017

18 Jan 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Highlands and Islands Enterprise
Stewart, David Lab Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

Presiding Officer,

“It has never been more important than today that all the country’s resources should be fully exploited, and the Highlands”

and Islands

“have much to contribute. This is not a case of giving to the Highlands. This is a case of giving the Highlands a chance to play their ... part in the future of Britain.”—[Official Report, House of Commons, 16 March 1965; Vol 708, c 1086.]

Those are the words of the iconic Secretary of State for Scotland, Willie Ross, speaking in the House of Commons during the second reading of the Highland Development (Scotland) Bill, which set up the groundbreaking Highlands and Islands Development Board in 1965.

The HIDB was set up with operational freedom—unshackled by ministerial direction—and with combined economic and social development tools. In 1991, HIE took the HIDB’s place, and both Conservative secretaries of state—Rifkind and Lang—kept those principles alive in the new body.

Professor Jim Hunter, an ex-chair of HIE and an SNP supporter, has been quoted already today. In December 2016, he said in The Press and Journal:

“The Scottish Government’s decision to deprive Highlands and Islands Enterprise of its own board is no bolt from the blue—it is the culmination of repeated moves by SNP Ministers to rein in and now end the independence of the north’s development agency.”

In my view, it is crucial that we keep the HIE board, fight creeping centralisation and give HIE the strategic direction to devise and formulate its own priority initiatives, keeping faith with the spirit of Willie Ross’s passionate address in the Commons in March 1965.

The big question today is why abolish HIE’s board. If it ain’t broke, why fix it? Where is the stampede of local people and organisations building the barricades to demand change? I ask the cabinet secretary to name them. Hands up how many back-bench SNP members for the Highlands and Islands want this move? How will HIE’s unique social function be protected? Where is the evidence of duplication? Who will employ the HIE staff? Who will appoint the HIE chief executive—the HIE board or the superquango?

Will the changes require fresh legislation, which might well be defeated, or will the cabinet secretary sneak through a so-called Henry VIII order using powers in part 2 of the Public Services Reform (Scotland) Act 2010? I looked at that procedure earlier. Members will be aware that it goes back to the statute of proclamations in 1539, which gave Henry VIII the power to make statute by proclamation. Clearly, the cabinet secretary has been taking some history lessons over the past few days.

Who will chair the superboard? Who will be the members? I will be happy to supply a free map of the Highlands and Islands to successful applicants if required.

I thank the Scottish Conservatives for their positive initiative in securing this debate. Those words are not often heard from this part of the chamber, which reinforces the point that cross-party consensus exists on the issue. The SNP faces almost universal criticism in the Highlands and Islands for its centralisation agenda, with opposition from the Lib Dems, the Greens, the Tories, Labour and—we should not forget—Highland Council as well. In the SNP’s ranks, it has caused discomfort on the back benches, and spies tell me that members of the SNP group at Westminster are muttering into their beer in the strangers bar because of the lack of consultation from SNP high command over the abolition of the board.

Tonight, there is a chance for democracy to strike back. All that we need is the will to do and the soul to dare.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-03438, in the name of Donald Cameron, on retaining the Highlands and Islands Enterprise board. I call Mr...
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
At the outset of the debate, it is worth casting our minds back some 50 or so years to 1965, when Highlands and Islands Enterprise’s predecessor, the Highlan...
Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Donald Cameron Con
I do not have time, I am afraid. I defy anyone to find an organisation that supports the proposal. Keith Brown revealed last month at the Economy, Jobs and ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Economy, Jobs and Fair Work (Keith Brown) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Donald Cameron Con
I do not have time. The minister will have time to respond in his speech. The narrative of centralisation is fixed and unrelenting. A Convention of Scottish...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Keith Brown to speak to and move amendment S5M-03438.2. You have up to six minutes, please, cabinet secretary. 15:23
The Cabinet Secretary for Economy, Jobs and Fair Work (Keith Brown) SNP
First, I make it clear that, where possible, I fully intend to listen to the points that have been made. I would like to engage and it might have helped in t...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Keith Brown SNP
I am sorry, but are we not in the pattern of not taking interventions? I recognise Liz Smith’s interest, though, so I will take her intervention.
Liz Smith Con
I thank the cabinet secretary for doing so. On the rationale for change, will he spell out whether he has had any communications from the four boards that he...
Keith Brown SNP
It would take me some time to recite all the information that is contained in the letters, but I have had various correspondence from the boards. As you woul...
Gail Ross (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
SNP Highlands and Islands members met the cabinet secretary several months ago to discuss this very topic. Will he now commit to being open minded about reta...
Keith Brown SNP
In addition to the points that Gail Ross, Kate Forbes, Richard Lochhead and others have made to me about what the structure beneath the strategic board shoul...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the debate and I support the motion. The Highlands and Islands Development Board and Highlands and Islands Enterprise have, between them, more than...
Kate Forbes SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Rhoda Grant Lab
Let me make some progress. In response, Keith Brown tried to appease by saying that he expects there to be strong Highland representation on the new single ...
Kate Forbes SNP
Does the member accept that only phase 1 of the review has been published and that the reason why we do not have all the details is that we await phase 2? Do...
Rhoda Grant Lab
We know now that the board of HIE is going to be dismantled, which we did not know at the time of that vote. The announcement of that proposal was sneaked ou...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to the open speeches. We are extremely tight for time. In order not to jeopardise the next debate, I ask all speakers to aim for three and a half...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I will try to cut down my time to meet your deadline, Presiding Officer. When I started working in Inverness in 1995, I had little knowledge of HIE. In fac...
Kate Forbes SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Edward Mountain Con
I am sorry, but I am very pushed for time, and I know that the member has intervened already. As a Tory, I am putting myself in a dangerous position by quot...
Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
Words are so devalued in our political discourse that they are hurled about until the air is so thick with exaggeration, hyperbole and superlatives that it i...
Rhoda Grant Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
With pleasure.
Rhoda Grant Lab
Is the member actually saying that the board has no purpose at all? Why are we setting up an overreaching board if that is the case?
Kate Forbes SNP
That is a good point, and a fair one. I think that the board has an important role to play. Over the past few years we have seen that our economy is changing...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Presiding Officer, “It has never been more important than today that all the country’s resources should be fully exploited, and the Highlands” and Islands ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
Time is tight. I ask for speeches of up to three and a half minutes, please, or members at the end will lose their speaking time. 15:47